Das Erste HD/ZDF HD/Arte HD

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saint123

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Hi, before I went to France last week, I could clear the above channels on Astra 11361.75 H ...now all I get is audio...no video...tried rescan...
tried deleting xponder and rescanning again...still the same...any one else having same prob...receiver is FS Innovation...100% sig quality...
other HD channels..eg Anixe HD/Astra HD Promo/Servus TV HD on 11302.75 H are OK...Can any other Innovation owner clear these channels
 
Llew

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OK here. VPIDS still the same on my HD PC card.

Das Erste HD 6010
ZDF HD 6110
Arte HD 6210

Don't have an Innovation, sorry.
 
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denyo1977

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United Kingdom
I've got exactly the same problem. I've got the Passion+ receiver and a couple of days ago I suddenly couldn't get a picture for Das Erste HD, ZDF HD and Arte HD, but sound on all three channels. All other HD channels were fine. Tried rescanning too and tried downgrading the firmware. No luck and now I can't get the picture for Einsfestival HD either. Emailed Fortec Star, but only got the reply to check other HD channels so far.
 
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boug

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uk
Seems these channels are being upgraded to HD+ I have never come across it but it looks as if you will need a box or card (probably not available in UK) to continue viewing these channels

_http://blogs.rnw.nl/medianetwork/german-private-broadcasters-to-launch-hd-with-hd-on-november-1-2009
 
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denyo1977

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As far as I know the HD+ is for the privately owned channels. But the four channels missing on the Fortec Star receivers aren't private.

And it mentions in that link

"...all unencrypted HD programs of, for example, Das Erste, ZDF and ARTE as well as all other digital offers broadcast via ASTRA, will be available."

That doesn't sound to me that you shouldn't get Das Erste & Co with a "normal" HD receiver.
If someone with a non Fortec Star receiver would confirm that they can't get the channels anymore, than it would be a different story. But on three different forums the problems were only mentioned by Fortec Star owners.
 
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No problems with those Channels on my Humax Foxsat.
 
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denyo1977

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Tivù, could you let me know the video PID of one of the channels (or all of them if you like)?
 
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denyo1977 said:
Tivù, could you let me know the video PID of one of the channels (or all of them if you like)?
Sure - give me a few minutes as my Shack is not near the Foxsat.
 
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Das Ertse 6010

ZDF 6110

Arte 6210
 
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denyo1977

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Thank you! I just don't understand what's going on, the PIDs actually haven't changed.
 
Irishmale

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Have just had a look at my system(kathrein UFS 910) here & have the follwoing results.
Arte: Astra 19,2E, 11361MHz., Hor. 22.000MS/s
tsid :1011
oid: 1
sid:11120
pcr-pid:6210
video-pid:6210
Audio-pid:6220
Das Erste HD: Astra 19,2E, 11361MHz., Hor. 22.000MS/s
tsid:1011
oid:1
sid:11100
pcr-pid:6010
video-pid:6010
audio-pid:6020
ZDF HD: Astra 19,2E, 11361MHz.,Hor. 22.000MS/s
tsid:1011
oid:1
sid:11110
pcr-pid:6110
video-pid:6110
audio-pid:6120

It should however be noted that the Erste & Zdf are at the moment only working as test channels at the moment, advertising what the German public will be able to see in the future. I believe they will show some HD tv in Dec.
 
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denyo1977

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Yeah, I know Das Erste HD and ZDF HD are only showing test videos at the moment.
Thanks for posting your results too.
 
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Fortecstar1

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denyo1977 said:
Yeah, I know Das Erste HD and ZDF HD are only showing test videos at the moment.
Thanks for posting your results too.
Just sent you nes sw to test ... The video pids have changed see the other forum you referenced for the exact details but it is now a five digit vpid. We have adjusted the field to accept five values.
 
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boug

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I tried the info listed here on my PC with Azure AD-SP400(1041) DVB-S2 card and DVBviewer got picture and sound on all the channels using 4 digit Vpid

Changed back to Fortec Passion+ STB with all the same Vpids sound OK but no picture
 
Llew

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Fortecstar1 said:
Just sent you nes sw to test ... The video pids have changed see the other forum you referenced for the exact details but it is now a five digit vpid. We have adjusted the field to accept five values.
Hi Fortecstar1. Can you arrange to have the new software uploaded to the Fortecstar site when it's confirmed to be working OK?

Cheers, Llew.
 
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denyo1977

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I used the new software and entered the 5 digit video PIDs and still no luck.
 
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gooner

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denyo1977, did you try changing the sid's or just the vpid's
 
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denyo1977

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I entered both, vpid and sid.
 
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mshannon

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Same problem here, I had this some time ago but it cleared. I did get a picture on ZDF HD after it was left on this channel overnight, but no luck since. What are the 5 digit V PIDs? There are only 4 digits quoted here and on Lyngsat and King of Sat. There are 5 digit SID's but so do many other channels (anixe HD etc).
 
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denyo1977

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Someone on satdudez said his receiver suddenly showed the Video PIDs 22394 (Das Erste HD), 22494 (ZDF HD) and 22594 (Arte HD). So far no one else confirmed that they had the same and entering them didn't help.
It seems like Fortec Star have acknowledged there is a problem and hopefully something will be done soon.
 
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