cielobuio
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- Joined
- Feb 16, 2009
- Messages
- 3
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- Location
- Leeds
- My Satellite Setup
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Humax Foxsat - HDR x 2
Bware - HK520 HD receiver with Tivusat Card
Dual LNB on Wave Frontier toroidal dish
Octo LNB for Astra-2
Quad LNB for Hotbird
4 x DiSEqC switch for multi-room distribution
- My Location
- UK
Hi,
I had a 60cm dish with dual LNB for Astra-2 and Hotbird. I have an Italian Tivusat card in one of my three receivers, which was working fine for both LNBs. We use Hotbird only for Italian TV channels. We use Astra-2 for FreeSat channels only.
A while back, some channels disappeared from the Hotbird transmission, I thought this was due to the card, but I took my receiver+card to a satellite TV supplier, who verified all was working when connected to his dish at 13deg East.
I therefore took the opportunity to change my Hotbird LNB with a spare that I had and replace my rusty old dish at the same time. I replaced it with a Wave Frontier 55cm toroidal dish. I used the SatLex site to get the dish orientation (shown at the bottom of this mail).
I managed to get Hotbird aligned and then Astra-2 at the same time (after some time).
Though I still couldn't get any of the Rai HD channels or MediaSet channels e.g.:
(see - Packages: TivùSat - KingOfSat )
Rai 1 HD - No
Rai 2 HD - No
Canale 5 - No
Rete 4 - No
Rai 1 - OK
Rai 2 - OK
Rai 3 - OK
After some manual movement of the dish, I managed to get a signal for the above failing channels, though I had to seriously change the dish skew and slightly change the vertical angle. It was a very fine setup, no error margin at all.
Naturally, after this change, I lost Astra
After about an hour of struggle, I concluded that I can't get the above missing channels and Astra-2 on one dish.
Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong ? Dish too small ? Maybe I just ought to get a separate small dish for Astra-2 and dedicate the new toroidal to Hotbird ?
Thanks in advance for any advice.
Chris
Your location: Following values have been calculated for your location:
Latitude: 53.83° N (53° 49' 47")
Longitude: -1.58° E (1° 34' 48")
City: Leeds
Country: United Kingdom
WaveFrontier tilt angle (Skew): 103.83°
Make skew adjustment by tilting the antenna 13.83° to East which is exactly 103.83° on the scale!!!
(seen from behind the antenna)
WaveFrontier elevation angle: 25.33° (central satellite)
WaveFrontier azimuth range: 15.2° (28.2° E -> 13.0° E)
LNB Satellite* Azimuth angle Elevation angle LNB guide bar
1 Easternmost satellite:
Astra 2A/E/F (28.2° E) 144.67° 22.86° L -7.6
2 Badr 4/5/6 (26.0° E) 147.10° 23.64° L -5.4
3 Eutelsat 25B/Es'hail 1 (25.5° E) 147.65° 23.81° L -4.9
4 Astra 3B (23.5° E) 149.90° 24.46° L -2.9
5 Eutelsat 21B (21.5° E) 152.17° 25.07° L -0.9
Imaginary central satellite:
20.6° E 153.21° 25.33° 0.0
6 Arabsat 5C (20.0° E) 153.90° 25.50° R 0.6
7 Astra 1KR/L/M/N (19.2° E) 154.82° 25.72° R 1.3
8 Eutelsat 16A (16.0° E) 158.57° 26.52° R 4.3
9 Westernmost satellite:
Eutelsat Hot Bird 13B/C/D (13.0° E) 162.14° 27.16° R 7.3
I had a 60cm dish with dual LNB for Astra-2 and Hotbird. I have an Italian Tivusat card in one of my three receivers, which was working fine for both LNBs. We use Hotbird only for Italian TV channels. We use Astra-2 for FreeSat channels only.
A while back, some channels disappeared from the Hotbird transmission, I thought this was due to the card, but I took my receiver+card to a satellite TV supplier, who verified all was working when connected to his dish at 13deg East.
I therefore took the opportunity to change my Hotbird LNB with a spare that I had and replace my rusty old dish at the same time. I replaced it with a Wave Frontier 55cm toroidal dish. I used the SatLex site to get the dish orientation (shown at the bottom of this mail).
I managed to get Hotbird aligned and then Astra-2 at the same time (after some time).
Though I still couldn't get any of the Rai HD channels or MediaSet channels e.g.:
(see - Packages: TivùSat - KingOfSat )
Rai 1 HD - No
Rai 2 HD - No
Canale 5 - No
Rete 4 - No
Rai 1 - OK
Rai 2 - OK
Rai 3 - OK
After some manual movement of the dish, I managed to get a signal for the above failing channels, though I had to seriously change the dish skew and slightly change the vertical angle. It was a very fine setup, no error margin at all.
Naturally, after this change, I lost Astra
After about an hour of struggle, I concluded that I can't get the above missing channels and Astra-2 on one dish.
Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong ? Dish too small ? Maybe I just ought to get a separate small dish for Astra-2 and dedicate the new toroidal to Hotbird ?
Thanks in advance for any advice.
Chris
Your location: Following values have been calculated for your location:
Latitude: 53.83° N (53° 49' 47")
Longitude: -1.58° E (1° 34' 48")
City: Leeds
Country: United Kingdom
WaveFrontier tilt angle (Skew): 103.83°
Make skew adjustment by tilting the antenna 13.83° to East which is exactly 103.83° on the scale!!!
(seen from behind the antenna)
WaveFrontier elevation angle: 25.33° (central satellite)
WaveFrontier azimuth range: 15.2° (28.2° E -> 13.0° E)
LNB Satellite* Azimuth angle Elevation angle LNB guide bar
1 Easternmost satellite:
Astra 2A/E/F (28.2° E) 144.67° 22.86° L -7.6
2 Badr 4/5/6 (26.0° E) 147.10° 23.64° L -5.4
3 Eutelsat 25B/Es'hail 1 (25.5° E) 147.65° 23.81° L -4.9
4 Astra 3B (23.5° E) 149.90° 24.46° L -2.9
5 Eutelsat 21B (21.5° E) 152.17° 25.07° L -0.9
Imaginary central satellite:
20.6° E 153.21° 25.33° 0.0
6 Arabsat 5C (20.0° E) 153.90° 25.50° R 0.6
7 Astra 1KR/L/M/N (19.2° E) 154.82° 25.72° R 1.3
8 Eutelsat 16A (16.0° E) 158.57° 26.52° R 4.3
9 Westernmost satellite:
Eutelsat Hot Bird 13B/C/D (13.0° E) 162.14° 27.16° R 7.3