Pointing at 5 W, I went to a sat shop yesterday and told them the problem, they asked me to bring the box to the shop and they have a look at it first, so I did today and they fixed the problem, the LAT and LOG in the box were not right, not sure if it makes difference but it worked , I am just back home, I polged it in and it did work, not sure about all other satellites since they reset the box to factory setting and loaded AB3, so I am just setting the other Satellites and channels hopefuly all ok.
If I have a problem I will let you know, so far I did load Astra 1. Thank you very much for given your valuable time to me and others Rolf.