Advice Needed Low Symbol Rate Dutch Radio feeds on 16°E

satesco

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I discovered another possible station on 12565.7 H (possible SR 136) but i can't manage to lock it.

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I also found this mux and locked it but found nothing relevant to us. Possibly a small hit for this low symbol rate.
Radio Gdansk stayed on the same mux,12589 V,146,3/4.
 

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satesco

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seven antennas,one toroidal with 16 lnbs,
6 satellite receivers,2 Meters,9 PC cards(tbs6983,6903,6590,6504,6522,6209,2603,6909X,6903X,6902se,skystar hd2),2 tuners usb-tbs5927 & tbs5925,Skystar HD.
Satellite reception between 100.5E-50.0W
My Location
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In the lower band i can tune:

11053.3 H 355 -> SLAM! + 100% NL
11054.3 H 355 -> BNR AMS
11054.6 H 355 -> JOE TNZ + Radio538 TNZ

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Beyond the small difference in frequencies, the parameters(symbol rate) are the "classic" ones, i.e. those already posted on the satellite lists:
-11052.4 H,365,3/4-100% & SlamMain,
-11052.8 H,375,3/5-Sky & R10 TNZ,
-11053.2 H,176,3/4-BNR-AMS,
-11053.5 H,355,2/3-Joe TNZ & Radio 538
 

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Beyond the small difference in frequencies, the parameters(symbol rate) are the "classic" ones, i.e. those already posted on the satellite lists:
-11052.4 H,365,3/4-100% & SlamMain,
-11052.8 H,375,3/5-Sky & R10 TNZ,
-11053.2 H,176,3/4-BNR-AMS,
-11053.5 H,355,2/3-Joe TNZ & Radio 538
A few of these services can also be received with tbs 6909x, the ones with symbol rate above 300, except for
the seconds one. The card has to rely on digital filtering, and I suspect the problem is that it is affected by nearby muxes.
So on some muxes it works and on others it does not.
The three radio channels also work.


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satesco

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Satellite reception between 100.5E-50.0W
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I have to say that without 6909x with neumoDVB, I didn't know that muxes with a symbol rate of 405 in the upper band are active.
After that, I listened with this card to QNL AMS radio on 12567 H,405,3/4.
The interesting ones would be that "Blindscan all", 6909x finds a low symbol rate, like Dutch muxes. It is true that it also depends on the signal strength.
It is beyond my expectations that you can use and hope to work with 6909x/(6903x) even with difficult parameters.
I must add that there are no problems with processing and locking these parameters with the card 6983 with Deeptho's application.
 

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I can confirm the @satesco find

12567.3 H 405 -> JOE
12567.8 H 405 -> Q Music
12568.3 H 495 -> QNL AMS

Fun Fact: every station broadcasts RDS data in a separate PID (i.e. JOE on PID 112) between a lot of garbage.

I discovered another possible station on 12565.7 H (possible SR 136) but i can't manage to lock it.

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These are no problem for the good old 6925 but Octagon only locks to the very last (12.568,3). I am trying to manipulate the lamedb somehow to get the other two locking in, unfortunately without success so far.

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