OCTAGON SX88 H.265 HEVC HD

[william-1]

I only bought mine for the Multi Streaming as I have other receivers for the more menial tasks now using a 90cm dish as the signals are so strong here

 

[william-1]

 

[william-1]

 

[Pierangelo]

Yes, working well..

Dears,
sincerely, my recordings work only with the first version of software 1. 04 .(03 or 04.... I guess).

bye

I have the U2C denys, same hardware/software.

ciao
Pierangelo

 

[william-1]

Now running SW version 1.04.18

 

[william-1]

TS file recordings made on the SX88 play back OK on my PC

 

[Pierangelo]

Dear,
Good for you, I tried yesterday SW version 1.04.19 - last for Denys U2C, and still not completely working, BUT ok on AFN, not on French 5 west....

 

[Tururu]

TS file recordings made on the SX88 play back OK on my PC

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The main problem, is linux, not enigma2, the development will not be the same, it is much more limited, I hope not to be confused.
The difference is subtle, but very important, if the manufacturer does not open the "tap", it can not be developed and grow "well".
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El principal problema, es linux, no enigma2, el desarrollo no sera igual, esta mucho mas limitado, espero no estar confundido.
La diferencia es sutil, pero muy importante, si el fabricante no abre el "grifo", no se podra desarroyar y crecer "bien".

 

[MCelliotG]

This receiver seems like a good bargain for an all in one solution at a small price.
But please give attention to this detail, although blindscan works fine for normal transponders, it does not actually blindscan multistream transponders. This is highly important for everyone to keep in mind, as the manufacturers lead buyers to believe that it can auto discover any multistream frequency with no input values.
What happens with multistreams is that the firmware adds the multistream values required from a built in table that has stored all known MIS combinations. So when the user sets the multistream option to yes in blindscan all the scanner does is scan the frequency steps once with no MIS values and also with the built in MIS combinations. Naturally all known commercial multistream packages will be "blindscanned", regardless their frequency and orbital position. Take an example from PC programs like DVBDream. In their blindscan settings there is an option to input a MIS combination, and after that the scanner does the same thing as the closed source scanner of SX88 (and other stbs like Denys).
A real Multistream combination auto discovery is a tediously time consuming procedure and everyone with powerful PCs and PC cards like TBS know that. You cannot blindscan any MIS combination in a few minutes.

T2-MI on the other hand is different. For that all that is required is a decapsulator that runs internally in the firmware while it scans pid 4096. That should have happened already in E2 but it stalled as it's a hobby and no developer is obliged to take the development further. Closed source linux firmwares like SX88's already have that and of course you cannot expect any of the manufacturers to give the recipes for an E2 adaptation, they will lose money and it's all they care about!

I challenge any of these closed source implementations to find any signal on a non-commercial data transponder with their magic blindscan. If they succeed, I'd really know how a miracle can happen, and personally I'm not a believer...
Oh wait, you cannot do that in their satfinder, am I wrong?

 

[Pierangelo]

More details about recordings - last firmware .18:

AFN - powervu - ok
Italian multistream SD ok
French multistream HD NO
Russina T2-mi NO
other FTA HD/SD ok

I hope to help developers.

Regards
Pierangelo

 

[scopus]

This is a 4.2.2 feed off 16E looks like this chip might be capable of decoding seeing as I have a clearish picture at the top of the screen. Perhaps a software tweak??

 

[william-1]

This is a 4.2.2 feed off 16E looks like this chip might be capable of decoding seeing as I have a clearish picture at the top of the screen. Perhaps a software tweak??

View attachment 110358

My TM6900 can do that as well but never developed for full picture hopefully the SX88 can.

 

[maxi_power]

This is a 4.2.2 feed off 16E looks like this chip might be capable of decoding seeing as I have a clearish picture at the top of the screen. Perhaps a software tweak??

View attachment 110358

I tested this frequency now with Azbox ME and it works perfectly ...

 

[MCelliotG]

I just scanned this frequency and it came back with an HD feed called Superbike return (from 12524H).

 

[scopus]

I tested this frequency now with Azbox ME and it works perfectly ...

Yes, the AZBoxes will do 4.2.2 OK. There is some talk that the SF4008 has similar chip to the AZbox that could be developed for 4.2.2. Let's us hope the SX88 can also be tweaked..

 

[william-1]

My AZBox P+ will do 4:2:2 in MPEG-2 but not in MPEG-4 also no codecs support

 

[william-1]

This receiver seems like a good bargain for an all in one solution at a small price.
But please give attention to this detail, although blindscan works fine for normal transponders, it does not actually blindscan multistream transponders. This is highly important for everyone to keep in mind, as the manufacturers lead buyers to believe that it can auto discover any multistream frequency with no input values.
What happens with multistreams is that the firmware adds the multistream values required from a built in table that has stored all known MIS combinations. So when the user sets the multistream option to yes in blindscan all the scanner does is scan the frequency steps once with no MIS values and also with the built in MIS combinations. Naturally all known commercial multistream packages will be "blindscanned", regardless their frequency and orbital position. Take an example from PC programs like DVBDream. In their blindscan settings there is an option to input a MIS combination, and after that the scanner does the same thing as the closed source scanner of SX88 (and other stbs like Denys).
A real Multistream combination auto discovery is a tediously time consuming procedure and everyone with powerful PCs and PC cards like TBS know that. You cannot blindscan any MIS combination in a few minutes.

T2-MI on the other hand is different. For that all that is required is a decapsulator that runs internally in the firmware while it scans pid 4096. That should have happened already in E2 but it stalled as it's a hobby and no developer is obliged to take the development further. Closed source linux firmwares like SX88's already have that and of course you cannot expect any of the manufacturers to give the recipes for an E2 adaptation, they will lose money and it's all they care about!

I challenge any of these closed source implementations to find any signal on a non-commercial data transponder with their magic blindscan. If they succeed, I'd really know how a miracle can happen, and personally I'm not a believer...
Oh wait, you cannot do that in their satfinder, am I wrong?

The blind-scan works fine for normal transponders,

It does not actually blind scan multi stream transponders as this sort of a Blind Scan will take ages to complete so this data is embedded in the data base as to Blind Scan these will require a very powerful PC and PC card like TBS,

You do need activate the Multi-Stream transponders by making your 1st scan on a satellite with Multi-Stream active & Blind-Scan,

After this just use the normal Blind Scan without activating the Multi-Stream in the scan,

If new Multi-Stream transponders start we may be able to add them ?

 

[MCelliotG]

If new multistream transponders appear they'll wait for DXers to discover the codes/modes with their PC cards and then they'll add them to the firmware. This is how it works with these receivers, no magic tricks.
However I wonder if they will cater for a more serious MIS implementation by enabling the ability for manual MIS parameters entries.
And for God's sake... SNR in db, I cringe every time I see non sensical percentages!
BTW do FTP and telnet work on these STBs? With closed source linux embedded (it was said somewhere that's it's open source...) it should be possible.

 

[Lazarus]

I see Forum Sponsor @World-of-Satellite has them from 18 Sep (tomorrow) at £69

Octagon SX88 H.265 HEVC HD Multi-stream Digital Satellite Receiver

 

[Lazarus]

Quite. The DD+ issue is a deal breaker, as I mentioned a while ago.