UK TV in south eastern France

[suzie]

hello everyone ,i'm new to this and need some good advice.we live in france ,between annecy and geneva,we have french canal sat but also would like some english tv.some friends have told us just to buy a second dish and a cheap decoder get astra 2 and it will work!!hubby has spent 2 weekends trying(the cheap decoder gets nothing but he has connected it to canalsat decoder and it has found sky,searchs and then blocks)half of the world is telling us it will work the other half is telling us we need a digibox and suscribe to sky???please somebody tell us the truth i just would like some english tv for christmas!very confused suzie.

 

[Analoguesat]

If you want the pay channels then you need a Sky UK subscription.

If you want the free channels then you need almost any free to air box and a suitably sized dish pointing at the 28E satellite cluster.

 

[Lazarus]

Yes, you won't get UK Channels without correctly realigning your second Dish. I suspect it is aligned to the wrong Satellite, which is why you have no viewable results.


I don't know what size Dish you're trying to use, but I suspect that 60 - 80 cm would be the right ballpark for UK Channels where you are.


Most decent UK TV (BBC, ITV, Channel 4 and Five) is Free To Air ie cheap box should do the job. No card or subscription.

Your problem is 99.99% certain to be incorrect alignment to 28E.

 

[Topper]

I don't know what size Dish you're trying to use, but I suspect that 60 - 80 cm would be the right ballpark for UK Channels where you are.

I thought there was a marked increase in dish size required as you get further South in France I thought 80 - 90 cm was ballpark for that area

 

[JTA]

they're living in eastern France, close to the swiss border, though the same reasoning should be applied here : how further east you go ho bigger the dish you'll need, certainly for Astra 2D where all the BBC's and ITV's are located.

 

[PaulR]

80cm will be plenty for Geneva. I use that size down near 84 Orange and it gives a good margin for rain.

60cm will be enough to get the $ly sybscription channels but only the free ones on a fine day. When rain comes they'll fade away!

 

[Lazarus]

I thought there was a marked increase in dish size required as you get further South in France I thought 80 - 90 cm was ballpark for that area

Good results from a 60cm on hols even in the Catalunya Low Pyrenees, but I agree if I were doing this from scratch I'd go straight for 80cm


Edit: Just spotted the more accurate location and the easterliness is greater than apparent on first sight. So, direct local knowledge would be best.

For me, a geography refresher would be good!

 

[Topper]

For me, a geography refresher would be good!

Ditto....... I had to look it up too ;)

 

[sonnetpete]

Although I live a considerable distance north of Annecy, if anyone asks me about Astra 2 reception I always recommend a 60cm as a minimum. Anything less will suffer from rain fade in severe weather, even here.

I would think an 80cm would be okay.......I just happen to have a Triax TD88 going spare

Pete

 

[jemparis75]

I live in Burgundy and i receive perfectly english channels on Astra2 28.2 East with a 90 cm dish.
Have a look to lyngsat.com and select Astra2D and you get this :

File attached or
-http://www.lyngsat-maps.com/maps/astra2d.html

I think with a 1,20 meter, you should do it

Cheers

 

[Low Profile]

Make sure the decoder is numérique (digital), the cheaper analogue systems are not compatible. An 80cm dish (which is standard in most kits) is sufficient (unless you get a torrential downpour). The dish should point about 30° East from South, with 32.8° elevation and about 20° of skew (Twist the LNB 20° clockwise). The elevation should be marked on the bracket, it's not the angle of the face of the dish.

 

[hump101]

Just for reference, we are in Chatel, and a 60cm dish and fortec star pvr give a really good signal, even when it is snowing. We are high (1250m) and have a clear line of site to 28.2E.

 

[jewells]

Make sure the decoder is numérique (digital), the cheaper analogue systems are not compatible. An 80cm dish (which is standard in most kits) is sufficient (unless you get a torrential downpour). The dish should point about 30° East from South, with 32.8° elevation and about 20° of skew (Twist the LNB 20° clockwise). The elevation should be marked on the bracket, it's not the angle of the face of the dish.

Thank you SO much ,the information is just what i needed?i live 50km east of Toulouse & after many hours on the roof..ALL i get is Astra 19dgs east ...wait for it ...only in German ..Nothing else ,no nothing else comes through ..any suggestions would be appreciated ,the french tech ! says the optex d/coder is set up ok !! yes i am trying !! thanks professionals ,english man in france ......

 

[Lazarus]

Well if all you get is German Channels from 19.2E, clearly you need to move the Dish 9 degrees further East and to depress the Elevation by a degree or two.

 

[Low Profile]

Thank you SO much ,the information is just what i needed?i live 50km east of Toulouse & after many hours on the roof..ALL i get is Astra 19dgs east ...wait for it ...only in German ..Nothing else ,no nothing else comes through ..any suggestions would be appreciated ,the french tech ! says the optex d/coder is set up ok !! yes i am trying !! thanks professionals ,english man in france ......

No worries, as Tivù suggested, where you are the dish should point roughly 35° East of south, with 33.5° Elevation and about 25° of Skew.
:-thumbup

 

[Low Profile]

FWIW. Brico E.Leclerc are doing kit numeriques (FTA digital receiver + 80cm dish + LN for 49.95 Euros. You might have to check locally, but this is valid in 24, 33 and 46.

 

[jewells]

thank you all for your help, happy new year !! when the weather warms up i will be back on the roof ? &i will seek out a digital decoder ++ will keep you posted ,i feel very happy NOW !!

 

[hump101]

FWIW I did exactly the same - Astra 19.2 and all German channels. I didn't have a compass, and the 19.2 signal strength is SO much stronger than the 28.2, I had missed it completely. However, having read this thread (which is why I joined - thanks folks) I moved it 9 degrees east (by guess) and 2 degrees down, and bingo, a faint signal on my satellite finder. Once focused on this the signal is still very low on my meter, but the tuner sees it as 70ish %, quality 80ish %, and the picture is great. Just persist and don't expect the 19.2 signal strength, and you should be fine.

 

[jewells]

FWIW. Brico E.Leclerc are doing kit numeriques (FTA digital receiver + 80cm dish + LN for 49.95 Euros. You might have to check locally, but this is valid in 24, 33 and 46.

thanks ..pardon my ignorance ,i have a LNB from my analogue
kit ? can i use this one ?? or when i purchase the digital de-coder...are the LNB s the same ??.....many thanks ...again

 

[rolfw]

It may or may not be, you need to check that it says universal on it.