multistream Sky TG24 mux on Eutelsat 33E

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have tried to scan this Sky TG24 mux listed on Flysat FlySat Eutelsat 33E @ 33.1° East what do i select for dualstream & where/how do i enter TX1 MI & TX2 MI 97 on Mutant HD51 or is this a no go ?
 

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You'll find both streams-TX1 MI & TX2 MI 97 if you scan twice.
 

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You'll find both streams-TX1 MI & TX2 MI 97 if you scan twice.

hi thanks for you reply, still nothing. not sure what transport stream type, ID & mode etc to use ? tried doing an ordinary scan & says 0 channels found.

thanks
 

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It should be known that our receivers,the commercial ones,although,some,can detect the signal on transponders with generic stream,they can not lock it, and more so to memorize and visualize.I did not succeed with my receivers.Such generic streams are addressed to those who have a dedicated device,a TV program provider.This transponder(12543 V) being an Italian feed.
But if you still want to receive this feed or others but without great hope of seeing it in the clear,you can use Dvbs cards.My pictures above are made with a TBS card and with the help of applications and players we can get information about these types of streams.
Here's what such a picture looks like on a generic stream that you won't get with commercial receivers.
 

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It should be known that our receivers,the commercial ones,although,some,can detect the signal on transponders with generic stream,they can not lock it, and more so to memorize and visualize.I did not succeed with my receivers.Such generic streams are addressed to those who have a dedicated device,a TV program provider.This transponder(12543 V) being an Italian feed.
But if you still want to receive this feed or others but without great hope of seeing it in the clear,you can use Dvbs cards.My pictures above are made with a TBS card and with the help of applications and players we can get information about these types of streams.
Here's what such a picture looks like on a generic stream that you won't get with commercial receivers.

thanks i had a feeling that was the case. i may have to invest in a DVBS card. was TG24 HD i was after. i do have the SD version on 5°W tho
 

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It should be known that our receivers,the commercial ones,although,some,can detect the signal on transponders with generic stream,they can not lock it, and more so to memorize and visualize.I did not succeed with my receivers.Such generic streams are addressed to those who have a dedicated device,a TV program provider.This transponder(12543 V) being an Italian feed.
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I have to make a correction to the above opinion:there are,however,few receivers that can receive this generic stream and even memorize.Among them is Openbox SX6,with which I made a test on this stream.Among them is Openbox SX6,with which I did a test on this stream. Luckily the blindscan found transponder 12543 H,1704,5/6,8PSK and then memorized it. Changing from one stream to another is done automatically without the need for anything else.But that's all he knows.Of course he doesn't know how to play video, as you can see below.
 

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I have to make a correction to the above opinion:there are,however,few receivers that can receive this generic stream and even memorize.Among them is Openbox SX6,with which I made a test on this stream.Among them is Openbox SX6,with which I did a test on this stream. Luckily the blindscan found transponder 12543 H,1704,5/6,8PSK and then memorized it. Changing from one stream to another is done automatically without the need for anything else.But that's all he knows.Of course he doesn't know how to play video, as you can see below.


thanks for that, really insightful
 

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If STV chipsets are the only ones that can receive this stream, then a TBS 5925 attached on an E2 receiver will too, and also STi 7111 receivers. I will try later with TBS if I don't forget about it...
Edit: Just checked it!
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Looks like E2 (and that's expected) cannot distinguish the dual stream, and downloads the first one with distorted image.
 
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It is not surprising that this stream is not seen by commercial receivers;
This is continuous stream only cards (in my case TBS6983) are capable of find by themselves is kind of flow.12543a-vert.jpg
 

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If STV chipsets are the only ones that can receive this stream, then a TBS 5925 attached on an E2 receiver will too, and also STi 7111 receivers. I will try later with TBS if I don't forget about it...
Edit: Just checked it!
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Looks like E2 (and that's expected) cannot distinguish the dual stream, and downloads the first one with distorted image.

i cant even get that at this end, just says 0 channels found
 

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Exactly, because Silabs can't even see a signal!
 

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Would an Octagon SF8008 get these easily with out all the fuffing about ? Or even my SX88+ ?
 

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I have to make a correction to the above opinion:there are,however,few receivers that can receive this generic stream and even memorize.Among them is Openbox SX6,with which I made a test on this stream.Among them is Openbox SX6,with which I did a test on this stream. Luckily the blindscan found transponder 12543 H,1704,5/6,8PSK and then memorized it. Changing from one stream to another is done automatically without the need for anything else.But that's all he knows.Of course he doesn't know how to play video, as you can see below.

Well trying my SX6 although a strong signal I get no video and bad breakup with audio so what is wrong ?
 

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Well trying my SX6 although a strong signal I get no video and bad breakup with audio so what is wrong ?

hobby receivers cant resolve it sadly
 
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