Is Eutelsat E33F going to be retired soon?

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jnplc22

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Hi everyone, I'm new to the forum, I hope I'll have a nice time here.
I have been reading your threads for a long time, I signed up because I would like to ask you a question.

I find myself having to exchange data with devices located in remote areas, which for this reason are covered by a satellite internet connection.

The provider's customer care contacted me saying:

"Eutelsat has stated that starting from January 2025 the e33f satellite may no longer be in stable orbit and there is no intention to place a new satellite in that orbital position".

He therefore suggests:

"to migrate devices to the new satellite Hellas sat 4 39 east"

with the consequence that I will have to pay very high expenses for the changes to be made on sites.

I looked for news online in reference to the decommissioning of the 33f satellite but I couldn't find any.
Does Eutelsat usually release news like this?

From my research I also understand that the Hellas satellite is from a supplier other than Eutelsat.

I would therefore like to ask you if you are aware of this disposal of the e33f starting from January 2025, I have not found any news on this matter.

Thank you.
 
The Vidi TV package is already active on Eutelsat 16A at 16°E, so that might be an indication it's leaving 33°E.
 
Hellassat4 is hardly a new satellite - she ws launched in 2019...... Although shes probably got at least 10 years service left.

Eute 33F is the old Hotbird 8 / later 13B and is an old satellite - launched 2006 so shes getting towards the end of her operation lifespan. Sounds like shes going to be left to operate inclined. This means the satellite is allowed to wobble up & down off the main geostationary arc completing a figure 8 in 24 hours. For a few years the inclination wont be noticable but as it increases normal dishes will lose signal for a few hours a day as she wanders up the the extremes of the figure 8


Sadly the great days of satellite communications are past us. Due to fibre cnnections its becoming increasingly clearthat as elderly satellites come to the end of their operational lives long term some satellite slots will be abandoned. (Its simply not worth the operators launch new satellites as they wont make back the build & launch costs in hire fees from organisations using them)
 
jnplc22 said:
Thank you for your answer.
What means that?
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Its just recently been duplicated onto 16e, Providers do this when they plan a switch of satellite. Usually you'll have a several month overlap where it is on both satellites so people can move their dish.
 
In my opinion, as you have a deal with an internet service provider, if you want maintain the same connection with them, the best way would be to follow their plans.
If they are switching to a new position, the only thing to do is moving your dish to the new one and continue to use your actual connection.
If you are not able to move the dish to the new satellite, the best solution is changing your ISP, choosing one that uses a different technology like fiber if it is available at your home?
 
7mdish said:
In my opinion, as you have a deal with an internet service provider, if you want maintain the same connection with them, the best way would be to follow their plans.
If they are switching to a new position, the only thing to do is moving your dish to the new one and continue to use your actual connection.
If you are not able to move the dish to the new satellite, the best solution is changing your ISP, choosing one that uses a different technology like fiber if it is available at your home?
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Yup I agree, at the end of the day your supplier knows best and far more than us, if they're telling you the satellite is closing soon, its closing soon :)
 
Thank you to all for your answers.
Thanks to your explanation i understood the situation that is coming soon.
So, since my sites are not covered by wired connection the best think to do is follow the provider's instruction, but i had to ask you the question i asked you, because lately I don't consider my supplier reliable so i have to check what he tells me.

Thank you again.
 
jnplc22 said:
Thank you to all for your answers.
Thanks to your explanation i understood the situation that is coming soon.
So, since my sites are not covered by wired connection the best think to do is follow the provider's instruction, but i had to ask you the question i asked you, because lately I don't consider my supplier reliable so i have to check what he tells me.

Thank you again.
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I would be asking your supplier when it will be turned on, on 39 east, and how long you have to migrate services
 
He said that the service is already available on Hella 39e, for the migration is needed half an hour and 150 euros for each site.
 
Keep in mind that the orbital position at 39 East is not so far from 33 East. So the dish must be moved of just few degrees, not so difficult you know.
 
jnplc22 said:
He said that the service is already available on Hella 39e, for the migration is needed half an hour and 150 euros for each site.
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That price (including travel) suggests the adjustment is easy, no equipment swopout.
 
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