Ses Want Frequency Of Eutelsat

I wonder which beam those two new data transponders are using:
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strs65 has them weaker than those new 2F PE transponders... maybe they are on 1N as well ?
 
11008V locks at 5.5dB, but 11185V doesn't (due to 16APSK modulation I suppose).

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In any case the frequencies above 12670 MHz don't lock here, too weak...
 
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Update from Helsinki. You can easily figure out transponders I have lost. On Tuesday I had 210 FTA channels, today 135.
Code: 
freq  AGC [dBm]      SNR [dB]
[MHz]    Oct-1    Oct-4    Oct-1    Oct-4
11221H    -39      -40         6.0         6.9
11223V    -35      -35         9.5         8.4
11259V    -34      -34       10.7       11.4
11260H    -39      -38        6.9         7.7
11306H    -39      -39        7.7         8.4
11306V    -36      -36        9.5         9.5
11344H    -40      -37        8.4       10.4
11344V    -36      -39       10.4        8.4
11388H    -40      -40        9.0        9.5
11390V    -38      -36        9.0      10.4
11426V    -41      -40         7.7        8.4
11427H    -42      -41         6.9        7.7
11469H    -36                   12.3
11488V    -36                   13.6
11507H    -37                   12.7
11526V    -36                   13.0
11545H    -38                   11.7
11565V    -38                   13.0
11584H    -37                   12.3
11603V    -38                   13.0
11622H    -41                   12.7
11661H    -39                   12.5
11681V    -34                   12.5
11719H    -35    -36           9.5       9.5
11739V    -36    -36           9.5       9.5
11758H    -27    -27         16.8     16.4
11778V    -28    -27         14.6     14.9
11797H    -35    -35          9.5       9.5
11817V    -36    -35          9.0       9.0
11836H    -28    -27        14.9     14.9
11856V    -28    -27        16.4     15.6
11875H    -37    -38          9.5       9.5
11895V    -37    -37          9.0       9.0
11914H    -29    -28       14.9      14.3
11934V    -29    -28       14.7      13.9
11953H    -36    -36        9.5        9.5
11973V    -37    -37         9.0       8.4
11992H    -29    -29      14.3      13.9
12012V    -28    -27      16.3      16.9
12031H    -38    -39       9.0        9.0
12051V    -38    -38       8.4        7.7
12129V    -38    -39       8.4        8.4
12285V    -40    -40       7.7        7.7
12343H    -41    -41       6.9        6.9
12382H    -31    -31     16.3      16.0
12460H    -34    -33    15.4      16.3
12480V    -32    -31     14.7      14.9
12523V    -40               10.4
12560V    -40               10.4
12560H    -44                 9.5
12607H    -46                  7.7
12607V    -40                10.4
12643V    -42                  9.9
12643H    -44                  8.4

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I have two Sky HD boxes here. The EPG of one appears to have updated to point to the new 2F transmissions (S4C, Euronews ..) but the other doesn't. Anyone know if this is normal?
 
Have you tried rebooting the out-of-date one?
 
Tivù said:
Have you tried rebooting the out-of-date one?
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Just waiting for it to finish recording "Tipping Point" then will do.
 
[Straw Clutching]Ah, I wonder if the fact it's recording has suspended the EPG update, somehow?[/Straw Clutching]
 
Tivù said:
[Straw Clutching]Ah, I wonder if the fact it's recording has suspended the EPG update, somehow?[/Straw Clutching]
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Don't think so. The EPG updated this morning and it hasn't been recording all day. Not to worry. I am sure a reboot will sort it.
 
the new 2F TPs are not in NIT yet.... only interim TPs are currently used by the EPG.

@huve: you get a strong signal of those two new data transponders... so they are def. not 2F PE - so no 2F signals on 11.45-12.5 bands yet.
 
Pietclock said:
the new 2F TPs are not in NIT yet.... only interim TPs are currently used by the EPG.
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Oh I see. I read in the forums Sky had updated their EPG "pointers". Flysat reports S4C went E2A Steerable -> 2F UK -> 2F PE. Of those beams, I only receive 2F PE so one of my EPGs must be pointing there I think!
 
PAT Version Number: 17
Transport Stream ID: 2404 (0x0964)
NIT: 28.2E 10.979 GHz Vertical 22000 5/6 QPSK, DVB-S

PMT PID 274 (0x0112) - Program 50325 MOTORS TV UK
PMT PID 259 (0x0103) - Program 50345 MUTV
PMT PID 282 (0x011a) - Program 50365 BT Sport 1
PMT PID 283 (0x011b) - Program 50366 BT Sport 1
PMT PID 257 (0x0101) - Program 50370 Racing UK
PMT PID 262 (0x0106) - Program 50375 BT Sport 2
PMT PID 261 (0x0105) - Program 50376 BT Sport 2
PMT PID 264 (0x0108) - Program 50380 ESPN
PMT PID 265 (0x0109) - Program 50381 ESPN
PMT PID 256 (0x0100) - Program 50385 S4C
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and in SDT:

Channel 50385
On Table_ID: 0x42 (current mux)
Service Name: S4C
Provider Name: BSkyB
Transport Stream ID: 2404 (0x0964) 28.2E 10.979 V 22000 5/6 QPSK, DVB-S

Descriptor: Country Availability Descriptor
Available in GBR
Available in IRL
Descriptor: Private Data Specifier Descriptor
Private Data Specifier: BskyB 1
Descriptor: User Private Descriptor: 0xb2
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huve said:
Update from Helsinki. You can easily figure out transponders I have lost. On Tuesday I had 210 FTA channels, today 135.
Code: 
freq  AGC [dBm]      SNR [dB]
[MHz]    Oct-1    Oct-4    Oct-1    Oct-4
12523V    -40               10.4
12560V    -40               10.4
12560H    -44                 9.5
12607H    -46                  7.7
12607V    -40                10.4
12643V    -42                  9.9
12643H    -44                  8.4
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I think 2F is going to be hard in Helsinki but have you updated your receiver's frequency list? Those are now out of date and will not receive anything even if you have a signal.

These are the ones currently transmitting from 2F:
12.515GHz/H SR 22.0 FEC 5/6
12.522GHz/V SR 22.0 FEC 5/6
12.545GHz/H SR 22.0 FEC 5/6
12.552GHz/V SR 22.0 FEC 5/6
12.574GHz/H SR 23.0 FEC 8/9 8PSK DVB-S2
12.581GHz/V SR 22.0 FEC 5/6
12.604GHz/H SR 22.0 FEC 5/6
12.611GHz/V SR 22.0 FEC 5/6
12.633GHz/H SR 22.0 FEC 5/6
12.640GHz/V SR 22.0 FEC 5/6
12.663GHz/H SR 22.0 FEC 5/6
12.670GHz/V SR 22.0 FEC 5/6
 
kevjs said:
Is it possible to recover from the inclined orbit? i.e. could 2D have been prematurley put in inclined orbit, so that it could be bought back on stream should 1N have failed until another craft could take over again?
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Theoretically yes - with sufficient station keeping fuel on board - which is unlikely as the whole reason for running inclined in the first place is lack of fuel!
 
timo_w2s said:
Would be good to get a 2F PE map reception report going... Analoguesat? :)
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Well that'll keep me amused this weekend. :D

Think we need some ground rules though like we did before. A separate thread would be better as this one is for more general discussion. Give me chance to drink my cuppa and I'll think about the basic ground rules & set a thread up.
 
timo_w2s said:
I think 2F is going to be hard in Helsinki but have you updated your receiver's frequency list? Those are now out of date and will not receive anything even if you have a signal.

These are the ones currently transmitting from 2F:
12.515GHz/H SR 22.0 FEC 5/6
12.522GHz/V SR 22.0 FEC 5/6
12.545GHz/H SR 22.0 FEC 5/6
12.552GHz/V SR 22.0 FEC 5/6
12.574GHz/H SR 23.0 FEC 8/9 8PSK DVB-S2
12.581GHz/V SR 22.0 FEC 5/6
12.604GHz/H SR 22.0 FEC 5/6
12.611GHz/V SR 22.0 FEC 5/6
12.633GHz/H SR 22.0 FEC 5/6
12.640GHz/V SR 22.0 FEC 5/6
12.663GHz/H SR 22.0 FEC 5/6
12.670GHz/V SR 22.0 FEC 5/6
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It's a result from blind scan. Look at the spectrum, it's flat in the bottom at 12,5 - 12,7 GHz.
 
huve said:
It's a result from blind scan. Look at the spectrum, it's flat in the bottom at 12,5 - 12,7 GHz.
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Yeah, I saw that. Sadly, I can't say I'm surprised. At least we can enjoy a few shopping channels that are left on 28A...
 
timo_w2s said:
I think 2F is going to be hard in Helsinki but have you updated your receiver's frequency list? Those are now out of date and will not receive anything even if you have a signal.

These are the ones currently transmitting from 2F:
12.515GHz/H SR 22.0 FEC 5/6
12.522GHz/V SR 22.0 FEC 5/6
12.545GHz/H SR 22.0 FEC 5/6
12.552GHz/V SR 22.0 FEC 5/6
12.574GHz/H SR 23.0 FEC 8/9 8PSK DVB-S2
12.581GHz/V SR 22.0 FEC 5/6
12.604GHz/H SR 22.0 FEC 5/6
12.611GHz/V SR 22.0 FEC 5/6
12.633GHz/H SR 22.0 FEC 5/6
12.640GHz/V SR 22.0 FEC 5/6
12.663GHz/H SR 22.0 FEC 5/6
12.670GHz/V SR 22.0 FEC 5/6
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Someone on a local forum here in Gran Canaria is reporting they CANNOT receive any of these TPs on an 90cm dish (using Sky "Add Channels"). Looks like the 120 cm dish size in the SES footprint may be correct for the 2F PE beam. Very odd knowing the history of the Canaries "spot" for birds at this orbital location. I am trying to get some more details of his set-up.
 
Analoguesat said:
Well that'll keep me amused this weekend. :D

Think we need some ground rules though like we did before. A separate thread would be better as this one is for more general discussion. Give me chance to drink my cuppa and I'll think about the basic ground rules & set a thread up.
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Right what Im going to do is set the thread up but not open it for business until SES start turning off some of the interim tp's Otherwise we are going to end up getting reports from the 11xxx MHz frequencies mixed in. It will also give folk a couple of days to see how their reception varies during 24 hours
 
Analoguesat said:
Right what Im going to do is set the thread up but not open it for business until SES start turning off some of the interim tp's Otherwise we are going to end up getting reports from the 11xxx MHz frequencies mixed in. It will also give folk a couple of days to see how their reception varies during 24 hours
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Good idea, I was thinking about this problem too. We need to find channels that are exclusively on the 2F PE beam to make it simple.
 
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