eutelsat 9b reception signal

It should have been clear in advance but just to get rid of any doubts, I am also not locking these 2 on my tiny 110x120cm. And to be honest I am glad about it because the chances if any will be activated on the Italy beam as well look quite good.
Yeah, I was thinking that too as they seem to be the only two beams that can reuse frequencies now that the Greek beam covers most of Europe!! It's just places like the UK that lose out where they can't get either.
 
In southern parts of Sweden it looks like this:
12 111 V coming in loud and clear at about 17 dB.
12 149 V much weaker at "only" 13 dB.

Similar weaker 12149 here.

Flysat writes Italy for those two, that must be wrong.
My impression is it's early days to tell (guess) which freq is on which beam.

Edit: flysat now says 'Nordic'...
 

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we got 4.5m tel aviv Israel
12111v 11.2dn
12149v 6.4 db
 

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Yeah, I was thinking that too as they seem to be the only two beams that can reuse frequencies now that the Greek beam covers most of Europe!! It's just places like the UK that lose out where they can't get either.
I can just assume that the greek spotbeam was far too tight so that many subscribers of OTE TV (that have left the country and reside now anywhere in Europe) would complain up to give up their subscription. Personally I am very glad for this decision since I neither like spotbeams nor frequency reuse. This will lead sooner or later to paid (illegal) IPTV services since nobody will accept this artificial borders made by some greedy companies. Anyway, enough of that.
 
I can just assume that the greek spotbeam was far too tight so that many subscribers of OTE TV (that have left the country and reside now anywhere in Europe) would complain up to give up their subscription. Personally I am very glad for this decision since I neither like spotbeams nor frequency reuse. This will lead sooner or later to paid (illegal) IPTV services since nobody will accept this artificial borders made by some greedy companies. Anyway, enough of that.

I've heard that theory for the Greek beam a few times and looking at the beam it certainly does seem to be a possible explanation for the increased coverage. It does seem like quite a lot of effort, cooperation and expense (both in monetary terms and frequencies in Greece and Germany) just for some "illegal" viewing though. I'm not a fan of frequency reuse either, especially if the channels I want are on the other side!) but from the satellite operator's point of view reuse makes a lot of sense to maximise bandwidth and revenue across Europe.

Here's a copy of the map of all the original beams that Eutelsat released some time ago before they made the changes that I originally posted when 9B was first announced. I stuck them together so it was easier to see which beams could share frequencies. Before the Greek beam was modified it could have easily have shared frequencies with the German beam. I just noticed now that the German beam has also been extended east from the original plan. I guess that since they couldn't reuse frequencies on those two beams they might as well expand both.

The Italian and Nordic beams seems almost identical to the ones originally published and of course we got a new wider German Ge that wasn't shown initially.

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signal better then 9e I think 12111v greek beam
12149v Nordic beam
12.3 db 12111v greek beam
6.9 db 12149v Nordic beam
 

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signal better then 9e I think 12111v greek beam
12149v Nordic beam
12.3 db 12111v greek beam
6.9 db 12149v Nordic beam

12 149 V is much weaker than 12 111 V in Sweden so if any of them aren't on the Nordic beam it must be 12 149 V.
 
[QUOTE="solly, post: 973313, member: 179410"
]signal better then 9e I think 12111v greek beam
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Definitely not the greek beam since inside Greece it's very weak and inside Germany there is strong signal in the North and very weak in the Southwest.
 
My reception from Cyprus with 3.4m and rainy weather conditions is for 12149v (7.2db) and for 12111v no signal at all.
So the most possible is that these 2 freq. are not in the same beam.
 
Down here Malta I can receive all the beams except the nordic one. Dish 1.2
 
Can anyone in the UK receive 12111V or 12149V 27500 Nordic Beam? In the north of the UK?
Nothing at all here in the south on a 1.2CM. All other beams perfect.
 
Eutelsat 9B @ 9 east signal quality

100cm dish + TM-3/5HD

11727 V = 16.2dB
11746 H = 14.7
11766 V = 15.1
11785 H = 14.6
11804 V = 16.2
11823 H = 15.3
11842 V = 15.3
11861 H = 14.2
11881 V = 15.6
11900 H = 14.5
11919 V = 15.7
11938 H = 15.2
11957 V = 15.4
11977 H = 14.1
11996 V = 16.1
12015 H = 14.7
12034 V = 15.2
12053 H = 14.7
12072 V = 15.4
12092 H = 15.3
12130 H = 14.6
12149 V = 4.1 no lock
12168 H = 15.1
12207 H = 15.4
12245 V = 13.7
12283 H = 15.6
12322 V = 14.8
12360 H = 14.4
12399 H = 16.0
12437 H = 14.5
12475 H = 15.7
 
Still no sign of this beam in my area, yesterday the signals from the rest of the beams I receive was excellent, the italian beam was coming strong at 16.4db!
 
In my area get all the beam except for Italy.Checked with 110 cm dish.
 

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In my area get all the beam except for Italy.Checked with 110 cm dish.

In your location you should get the Italian Multi-Stream on 12341 V 31400 2/3 with a receiver or pc card capable of receiving this type of transmission.
 
T90\solo2 blindscan, last column. Comparing to uk ref post #193 above.
12111 V going to the top. FEC is now 1\2


11727 V = 16.2 13.3
11746 H = 14.7 12.5
11766 V = 15.1 12.8
11785 H = 14.6 12.5
11804 V = 16.2 13.7
11823 H = 15.3 12
11842 V = 15.3 14
11861 H = 14.2 10.7
11881 V = 15.6 14
11900 H = 14.5 12.7
11919 V = 15.7 13.2
11938 H = 15.2 12.6
11957 V = 15.4 14
11977 H = 14.1 11.3
11996 V = 16.1 14
12015 H = 14.7 12.8
12034 V = 15.2 13.9
12053 H = 14.7 13.2
12072 V = 15.4 14
12092 H = 15.3 13
12111 V = 0? 16.8
12130 H = 14.6 13
12149 V = 4.1 13.2
12168 H = 15.1 13.3
12207 H = 15.4 13.5
12245 V = 13.7 13.6
12283 H = 15.6 13.2
12322 V = 14.8 13.3
12341 V -
12360 H = 14.4 13
12399 H = 16.0 13
12437 H = 14.5 12.8
12475 H = 15.7 13


 
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My latest receptions of Italian & Nordic/Baltic beams with clear sky (Titosat 2.1m)

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william-1 said:
In your location you should get the Italian Multi-Stream on 12341 V 31400 2/3 with a receiver or pc card capable of receiving this type of transmission.

Thank you for the encouragement,but,unfortunately,as you can see in the picture,it is a great distance between my area and the edge of the beam.Maybe with a dish of over 2m.
There is no chance to get signal on Italy beam with 150 cm antenna :( Checked with TBS6983 card.

 
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