astra 2f become launch arianespace v209

[Analoguesat]

.do you think SKY will move across all their channels from eurobird?

I dont think so - spreading the channels around helps keep prices down by encouraging competition, and also gives a chance to keep some services on air in the event of some sort of catastrophic cockup of the SES uplink stations

 

[Dan Dan]

I think you're right. 2A/B/C satellites are getting old now and will probably be reused elsewhere on the arc. Not sure about 2D - maybe the fate hasn't been decided yet or it might be a short term backup satellite until this one also runs out of fuel.

i was thinking 2D is there in emergency ´ until 2E comes along ...cant see it being reused elsewhere ..



[Satellite TODAY 09-06-12] SES will launch its Ka-band SES Broadband satellite service in November, pending the launch and beginning of operations of its Astra 2F satellite, the operator confirmed Sept. 6.


WELL WE KNOW NOW ITS GOING TO BE A FAST SWITCH OVER !!!

 

[PaulR]

That's their Ka service, I think they'll be doing a bit more testing with the Ku frequencies. Still, looks like it'll be running for Christmas, probably early December in fact.

 

[Dan Dan]

That's their Ka service, I think they'll be doing a bit more testing with the Ku frequencies. Still, looks like it'll be running for Christmas, probably early December in fact.

not sure how you test part of a satellite ,start a national serivice,but still have another part ´´in test´´ .i would have thought the handover is that a handover.when SES accept the satellite .i rally think its all stops out for this .as they want 1N back to 19E fast .....lots of german services waiting to start HD ...

I think ALL channels on astra 2a,1N will be transferred to 2F
it has 55 transponders at 130dbw .
ASTRA 1N active 16 ...this is DEF going home
ASTRA 2A active 25 ... 15 years from 1998 ..thats now...


ASTRA 2B active 16 old -to be used till 2E comes along (also back up for 2F)

 

[PaulR]

not sure how you test part of a satellite...

Not really sure either beyond making sure that the satellite is pointing in the right direction (!) and that the TWTAs are working. Nevertheless, they do seem to take a week or two before swapping over.

 

[C0re]

lots of german services waiting to start HD ...

All Ku frequencies at 19.2 are covered by the current satellites located there.

 

[Dan Dan]

All Ku frequencies at 19.2 are covered by the current satellites located there.

better tell SES to change their plans then ...


“The procurement of ASTRA 1N represents another important step in our strategy to continuously invest in our core business, and reinforce the high performance and efficiency of our fleet,” said Ferdinand Kayser, President and Chief Executive Officer of SES ASTRA. “With ASTRA 1N, we will have completed our comprehensive replacement programme at our prime orbital position of 19.2 degrees East and fully renewed our fleet at that position, thereby maintaining during the next decade the very high quality customer service. This will also enable us to continue to respond to the strong demand for digital and High Definition (HD) capacity, and to provide significant growth potential to key European markets.”

 

[C0re]

Marketing at full service. ;)

 

[Dan Dan]

Not really sure either beyond making sure that the satellite is pointing in the right direction (!) and that the TWTAs are working. Nevertheless, they do seem to take a week or two before swapping over.

so fully operational by 1/11/12 for KA broadband....me thinks they will do swap over BEFORE that date

 

[Dan Dan]

1H is being used as a ´backup´ at 19e but according to KINGSAT its seems to be drifting a bit
sp 1N to the RESCUE ASAP me thinks

 

[Dan Dan]

I dont think so - spreading the channels around helps keep prices down by encouraging competition, and also gives a chance to keep some services on air in the event of some sort of catastrophic cockup of the SES uplink stations

-http://www.a516digital.com
THURSDAY, 23 AUGUST 2012
Eutelsat redeploy satellite to secure UK satellite TV coverage

Eutelsat have confirmed that they are redeploying a satellite to secure future coverage of channels at the orbital position of 28.5 degrees East.
Over the past few weeks, services on the existing Eutelsat 28A satellite have been suffering from bouts of low power. Services on the affected satellite include the Freesat EPG and Sky Box Office plus CNBC, Al Jazeera, Universal Channel, CBS Drama and True Movies. This has resulted in lower than normal signal strengths for these services and even picture break up for some viewers.


Can you see sky wanting to put up with a second hand service ...is there anychance of EUTELSAT doing a DEAL with SES and walking away from 28e ....

ON my signal meter other day TRUE MOVIES etc were much higher peaks here in tenerife

 

[Analoguesat]

I cant see Eutelsat walking away - the legal cases about the 28.2/28.5E slot went on for years before the slot was divvied up between the two operators.

Hotbird 10 (currently Eutel 3C) will be coming up for redeployment in a few months time when W3D (now Eutel 3D) goes to 3E. Whats the odds Hottie 10 ends up at 28E as 28C?


From the Eutel fleet status webpage

EUTELSAT 3D (ex. W3D)
Thales Alenia Space has been commissioned to build the EUTELSAT 3D satellite. The delivery schedule of the new 56-transponder satellite has been fixed to 24 months, enabling Eutelsat to plan for commercial availability from early 2013.

Based on the Spacebus 4000 platform of Thales Alenia Space, EUTELSAT 3D will be initially deployed at 3° East, to reinforce capacity for the development of business in Europe and Africa prior to the arrival of EUTELSAT 3B, and to enable EUTELSAT 3C to fulfil another mission.

 

[C0re]

CBS Drama comes in strong here, 97-99% signal. On the other hand the transponder with CNBC, Horror Channel and CBS drama +1 has about 54% signal here and the transponder with True Movies 45-50%.

 

[Dan Dan]

TESTING at 28e (1N)

11009V (2C at 19e)
11112 (2C at 19e)
11141 (1L at 19e)
11156 (1k at 19e)
11171 (2c at 19e)
11186 (1k at 19e)

 

[Dan Dan]

CBS Drama comes in strong here, 97-99% signal. On the other hand the transponder with CNBC, Horror Channel and CBS drama +1 has about 54% signal here.

yes there is FIXED beam and S1 beam .we only get FIXED BEAM HERE ...but i was referring to the fact that power is HIGHER on what we can get then before , rather then overall power differences .thanks for input ..

 

[Dan Dan]

I cant see Eutelsat walking away - the legal cases about the 28.2/28.5E slot went on for years before the slot was divvied up between the two operators.

Hotbird 10 (currently Eutel 3C) will be coming up for redeployment in a few months time when W3D (now Eutel 3D) goes to 3E. Whats the odds Hottie 10 ends up at 28E as 28C?


From the Eutel fleet status webpage

EUTELSAT 3D (ex. W3D)
Thales Alenia Space has been commissioned to build the EUTELSAT 3D satellite. The delivery schedule of the new 56-transponder satellite has been fixed to 24 months, enabling Eutelsat to plan for commercial availability from early 2013.

Based on the Spacebus 4000 platform of Thales Alenia Space, EUTELSAT 3D will be initially deployed at 3° East, to reinforce capacity for the development of business in Europe and Africa prior to the arrival of EUTELSAT 3B, and to enable EUTELSAT 3C to fulfil another mission.

yes tend to go along with your point ,but i CAN see SKY moving to SES only if they can screw a good deal ....and of course a nice all over europe beam from 2F

mind you i was watching SKY NEWS when they took over British satellite broadcasting so never say never

 

[solly]

now green line arianespace next 9 days
_http://www.arianespace.tv/
launch window is 21:20 - 22:09 UTC.
i wish good luck to astra 2f and gsat 10

 

[Huevos]

So frequency reuse at 28° between say Germany France Spain and the UK is possible ?

Certainly not possible for any two territories that share a border.

 

[Huevos]

The 2D wasn't thát weak, so no rush in a weekly sense.

It would seem that was so fragile that they were worried that 1N wouldn't arrive in time, so they sent 1D there just in case.

 

[Huevos]

For people needing big dishes, there can be a problem optimising for both 28.2 and 28.5 though as the beamwidth of big dishes is much narrower.

The 8º skew difference is much more noticeable than the 0.3º azimuth difference.