Freesat in cyprus

[Zorba]

Thanks for trying to help. We can only receive 950 (London) 960 (Scotland) 968 (BBC2 England) and 970 (BBC2 Scotland) also I forgot to note that we cannot get BBCHD.
952 (E Mids) 953 (East E) 956 (NE &C) 958 (Oxford) 961 (S) 962 (SW) 963 (WM) AND 967 (EYL) all appear on the EPG with full programme details but cannot be viewed.

Well we can't get BBC/NNC1 HD in Cyprus. Those BBC regional channels you quoted also cannot be received here and they are on your receiver as they are probably preset in the software, like a sky digibox will list ALL sky/free channels regardless if we receive them here or not.
Do you get ITV1 HD and CH4 HD ?

 

[Unhban]

For ITV1 I use HD Central or Granada.

When you say HD Central do you really mean ITV1 STV HD (Scottish Television) or ITV1 London HD? I've looked on lyngsat but can't seem to see any HD for ITV1 Central.... Granada and STV and London are the only ones I know of in HD.

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[Analoguesat]

When you say HD Central do you really mean ITV1 STV HD (Scottish Television) or ITV1 London HD? I've looked on lyngsat but can't seem to see any HD for ITV1 Central.... Granada and STV and London are the only ones I know of in HD.

Unh.

ITV1 HD Central West - same frequency as STV & Granada

 

[Hughes]

ITV1 London HD is very poor reception-wise at my location as it's on an Astra 2D horizontal transponder, and my largest dish is "only" 1m50 centre feed. Astra2 verticals are fine until the Galician rain sets in!

 

[Zorba]

For us its the opposite. A sky hd box with a card with a london post code will get ITV HD(London) on 178 ,and quite strong. I assume its the 11.973V signal .Some other post codes will have to store the hd channel in "other channels".

 

[Unhban]

ITV1 HD Central West - same frequency as STV & Granada

This is very strange.... I did a scan of 10936 but nothing came up (I already have STV HD (PID 512) and Granada HD (PID 513)). All settings were set to AUTO.

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[Unhban]

Can't seem to edit my post above, apologies, but have now found said channel hiding within my huge channel list as ITV1 HD with a PID of 514, presume this is it? But it has videoguard so can't watch it.....

Unh.

 

[borderman]

Well we can't get BBC/NNC1 HD in Cyprus. Those BBC regional channels you quoted also cannot be received here and they are on your receiver as they are probably preset in the software, like a sky digibox will list ALL sky/free channels regardless if we receive them here or not.
Do you get ITV1 HD and CH4 HD ?

The regional channels are probably residue from the UK, where the box was originally set up, though we could not receive most of them there either! We get very good quality ITV1 HD, not sure about CH4, it does not appear in the channel list.

 

[Zorba]

Take the risk,do a factory default or reset and auto scan again .That way it will store only the channels that work here.Nothing to lose if, your box rescans every night. Do it mid day when 2D is at its strongest,although bbc 3 and 4 do not transmit until 9pm our time.

 

[borderman]

Take the risk,do a factory default or reset and auto scan again .That way it will store only the channels that work here.Nothing to lose if, your box rescans every night. Do it mid day when 2D is at its strongest,although bbc 3 and 4 do not transmit until 9pm our time.

Thanks Zorba. We have second telly with second Foxsat box that was set up in the UK to our then postcode and worked here except for the lost channels. Tried a reset and rescan and worst fears realised, we lost everything. The box does even pick up the Freesat signal and we get the dreaded 'Invalid postcode' message. Have tried different postcodes that I know to be valid with the same result.

However the box has a manual scan mode and this finds many channels including the Freesat ones with most BBC and ITV regions but not MER N very quickly but with channel numbers in the range 5***. So we have TV but have lost the Freesat facilities. I shall try again at different times in the day

 

[PaulR]

The failure is probably due to not being able receive the Freesat EPG stream. I think this is carried on Eurobird and, as this is at 28.5E rather than 28.2E, when you get to large dishes is in an ever-so-slightly different position. You may have to tweak the positioning of the dish to Eurobird for the reescan. Then afterwards, if necessary, re-align to 28.2E.

If this fails then your options are limited. Maybe run the Humax in non-Freesat mode might be the answer.

 

[Zorba]

There shouldn't be a problem with any Humax freesats here. I always tune it manually and then do a non freesat search on individual frequencies. ITV1 HD on 11.973 V 27500 5/6. Very strong here.

 

[borderman]

There shouldn't be a problem with any Humax freesats here. I always tune it manually and then do a non freesat search on individual frequencies. ITV1 HD on 11.973 V 27500 5/6. Very strong here.

Apologies for the delay in reply. We have now lost BBC1 and 2 England and Ch5. It looks as if BBC is rearranging all or most of it's transmissions. The box that came preprogrammed from UK picks up the transmissions (except for the lost ones)and the EPG but my second box will not find the Freesat signal on auto Freesat scan, manual scan finds the channels but then I cannot use the Freesat facilities such as red button and 7 days EPG and I dare not risk trying a recan on the box that receives at least some Freesat. Would a professional have some instrumentation that could search for Freesat tuning signals? The only thing that I can think of is that my dish is slightly out, sufficient to not pick up the tuning data but not enough to lose the transmission or is this too simplistic?

 

[PaulR]

The only thing that I can think of is that my dish is slightly out, sufficient to not pick up the tuning data but not enough to lose the transmission or is this too simplistic?

Not at all - I think that's exactly the problem - although whether slight adjustment will get a result is another matter.

The Freesat EPG is carried on Eurobird which is positioned at 28.5E rather than the 28.2E that the other Astra birds inhabit. You could try optimising for that but you run the very real risk of losing 2D channels which would mean you'd have the EPG but no channels!

 

[borderman]

Not at all - I think that's exactly the problem - although whether slight adjustment will get a result is another matter.

The Freesat EPG is carried on Eurobird which is positioned at 28.5E rather than the 28.2E that the other Astra birds inhabit. You could try optimising for that but you run the very real risk of losing 2D channels which would mean you'd have the EPG but no channels!

Thanks, I think I'll join you as dazed and confused.
I am not clear how a Freesat channel is designated amoung the many transmitted from the satellites. On most days we can receive the 7 day EPG (on the box that I have not fiddled with) so if the tuning data comes from Eurobird we should be able to rescan.

Also we have recovered the BBC channels that we lost the other day, must have been a weather problem as they are still on the same frequency.

 

[hexah]

The EPG is a stream of data.

 

[PaulR]

A simple FTA (free-to-air) receiver will receive and show whatever the tuner can find. It will only be able to show Now and Next information as this is broadcast with the channel. Freesat (and $ly) send more information in a separate stream of information. This data stream is used for the EPG and extends the information up to seven days amongst other things.

So, if the receiver gets the EPG information it will populate it with all the channels. It doesn't mean that you can actually receiver them of course!

 

[Unhban]

The EPG is a stream of data.

Isn't digital television just that?

Unh.

 

[PaulR]

Yep.

Welcome to pedant's corner.

But it's flagged as data rather than TV so the receiver "knows" what to do with it.

 

[Unhban]

Yep.

Welcome to pedant's corner.

But it's flagged as data rather than TV so the receiver "knows" what to do with it.

Thought you were saying that digital TV isn't data.... your statement didnt refer to anything gone before.....

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