Konig DV3 SAT-SDTA11KN and Invacom LNB

[chique]

Do you think I could have missed it with .5mm steps in both directions

 

[Lazarus]

Well it isn't just "both" directions, though - It's four directions at once: ie Elevation Up/Down plus Azimuth East/West.

So the answer is "yes", you could easily have missed it. And don't forget you won't get anything under 11222 MHz, so forget even looking.

 

[chique]

Tivo

I could kiss you :-)

Changed the antenna setup to 11259 and got a signal within seconds

FTA Blind scan gives me about 200 channels

Will it have found everything on that blind scan?

 

[Lazarus]

Ahem. Whether I'd let you or not is another matter!


Anyway, I suspect that, given you won't get anything from 2D, you may well have got everything.

But of course you could now select the weakest of the Transponders you have got then fine tune the alignment NOT FORGETTING to skew the LNB so you get H and V Channels equally well.

Check reality vs. expectation by comparing your achieved list with _http://www.flysat.com/28east.php (Bearing in mind you can ignore 2D ie 10714 to around 10936).

 

[Lazarus]

And when you've satisfied yourself that you've got optimum dish set-up, remove the Konig and bung on the Amstrad.

Beware, however, that the EPG is populated from a "Default" Transponder at 11778 on Astra 2A (North) , which you should be able to receive, the Channel List will include all the 2D Channels - sadly, you won't be able to view them.

 

[chique]

How do I identify the weakest transponders

Would they be the ones that fail on channel search?

 

[Lazarus]

No, you want one that is viewable ....... your box has Strength and Quality indications, so just watch those and flick through a few Channels or Transponders (depending upon how deep in the menus you find yourself) until you find one that is lower than the rest. Optimise using that and you might then find some even weaker TPs that previously failed will lock.

I think you've learnt enough now to be confident playing around without much more detailed input from us - so well done!

PS. Actually, bung on the Amstrad first and see what happens, just out of interest. But don't try to align using that as the Konig will do a much better job.

 

[chique]

Yes

Just a question of playing around now to get the extra channels

Put the amstrad on and works OK apart from a card issue at the moment which I can sort out.

Added channel 4 transponder and it found extra channels inc channel 4, more 4 etc , so when card sorted should be Ok

Many thanks for all the input without which I would have struggled a lot lot longer

 

[Lazarus]

Excellent - another satisfied punter!

You did all the work: All we did was pontificate.

 

[chique]

Thought I would post this list for other members in Bulgaria, the installation is in the General Toshevo Area

This is not a complete list of channels



CHANNEL TP F SIGNAL QUALITY

movies 24	11389	27500	v		60%
movies 24+	11389	27500	v		60%
horror ch+1	11222	27500	h		43%
cbs action	11222	27500	h		43%
greatest hits	11222	27500	h		43%
press tv	11222	27500	h		43%
cbs reality	11262	27500	h		63%
horror channel	11262	27500	h		63%
cnbc	11262	27500	h		63%
comedyctral	11307	27500	h	sky	60%
universal	11344	27500	h	sky	65%
investigation	11389	27500	h	sky	70%
disc.sci	11389	27500	h	sky	70%
disc.history	11389	27500	h	sky	70%
sky sports 4	11469	27500	h	sky	72%
sky sports 1	11469	27500	h	sky	72%
sky sports 3	11469	27500	h	sky	72%
sky1	11469	27500	h	sky	72%
sky atlantic	11469	27500	h	sky	72%
pick tv	11469	27500	h	sky	72%
sky2	11469	27500	h	sky	72%
sky arts 2	11469	27500	h	sky	72%
tcm	11508	27500	h	sky	73%
zing	11546	27500	h		74%
channel AKA	11585	27500	h		73%
Russia Today	11623	27500	h		76%
clubland tv	11623	27500	h		76%
massive R&B	11623	27500	h		76%
diva tv	11623	27500	h	sky	76%
syfy	11623	27500	h	sky	76%
cctv news	11662	27500	h		75%
france 24	11622	27500	h		75%
movies4men	11224	27500	v		72%
movies4men2	11224	27500	v		72%
NHK world HD	11224	27500	v		72%
movies4men2 +1	11260	27500	v		73%
scuzz	11307	27500	v		70%
dancenation	11307	27500	v		70%
true movies 1	11307	27500	v		70%
true movies 2	11307	27500	v		70%
nme tv	11307	27500	v		70%
the vault	11307	27500	v		70%
popgirl	11307	27500	v		70%
true entertainment	11307	27500	v		70%
cbs drama	11343	27500	v		65%
starz tv	11343	27500	v		65%
euronews	11343	27500	v		65%
bloomberg	11426	27500	v		73%
comedyctral +1	11527	27500	v	sky	73%
comedycentral	11527	27500	v	sky	73%
extreme sports	11527	27500	v	sky news package	73%
CNC World	11527	27500	v		73%
challenge tv	11565	27500	v	sky	73%
skylivingloves	11565	27500	v	sky	73%
skylivingit	11565	27500	v	sky	73%
history	11603	27500	v	sky	74%
universal +1	11681	27500	v	sky	75%
setanta sports	11681	27500	v	sky	75%
premier sports	11681	27500	v	sky	75%
syfy	11681	27500	v	sky	75%
sky action	11836	27500	h	sky	63%
sky comedy	11836	27500	h	sky	63%
sky premiere	11836	27500	h	sky	63%
sky scfi/horror	11836	27500	h	sky	63%
sky family	11836	27500	h	sky	63%
sky classics	11836	27500	h	sky	63%
sky modern greats	11836	27500	h	sky	63%
sky drama romance	11836	27500	h	sky	63%
sky thriller	11836	27500	h	sky	63%
sky premiere +1	11836	27500	h	sky	63%
bbc news	11954	27500	h		38%
bbc parliament	11954	27500	h		38%
Sky Gold +1	11992	27500	h	sky	72%
dave ja vu	11992	27500	h	sky	72%
qvc	12032	27500	h		25%
sky sports 2	12109	27500	h	sky	50%
sky sports 1	12109	27500	h	sky	50%
sky sports 3	12109	27500	h	sky	50%
sky sports news	12148	27500	h	sky	63%
sky sports 1	12148	27500	h	sky	63%
eurosports2 UK	12148	27500	h	sky	63%
movies4men+1	12523	27500	h		42%
Vintage tv	12523	27500	h		42%
mtv	11895	27500	v	sky	35%
itv1	12403	27490	v	sky	73%
the box	12480	27500	v	sky	72%
more 4 and +1	12480	27500	v	sky	72%
channel 4 and +1	12480	27500	v	sky	72%
E4 and E4 +1	12480	27500	v	sky	72%
CBS Reality	12523	27500	v		71%
Men and Movies	12559	27500	v		51%
comedyctrl +1	12644	27500	v	sky	70%

 

[Lazarus]

That's pretty useful info - thankyou for taking the trouble to collate it.

Enjoy your viewing!

 

[chique]

Thinking of putting multi feed LNB so I can have a freesat recorder as well as sky (thinking of humax 1T

Currently have INVACOM, NF 0.3db Part No SNH-031 Lo 9.75/10 6GHz

And thinking of either
INVACOM C120 QUAD LNB QDF-031 + FEED HORN ADF-120

OR

INVACOM QUAD UNIVERSAL 0.3dB LNB QDH-031

The QDF has separate feedhorn as docs say is for a prime focus dish

Any advice would be appreciated as to whether it is worth spending more on the QDH and if it might give me some more Astra 2A/B channels

How do I ascertain if my dish is a prime focus one?

 

[Lazarus]

Post up a pic of the dish, if you want help distinguishing between Offset and P-F.

However, Offset dish have the LNB located off the focal axis, but directed towards the focal point, whereas P-F has the LNB on the focal axis.

When you say a Freesat Recorder, do please remember that the Free To Air Channels it will get are substantially exactly the same ones as with Sky. The main difference is in the EPG.

Freesat EPG comes from Eurobird, so you should get that - but it won't alter the fact you cannot get most BBC, ITV etc (ie 2D), so would you not be better just using an agricultural DVD Recorder instead?

 

[chique]

Tivu

Agricultural DVD Recorder, is that a term for generic recorder connected to my sky box , as I was wanting to record channels I was not watching also

 

[chique]

pics of dish

 

[Lazarus]

Yes, that's right. SCART connected device.

But I see that's not going to fit the bill - unless you use one in conjunction with another Sky box or even a second generic Receiver.

I am just trying to find low cost suggestions as paying well over £200 for a Freesat HDR and not being able to get best use out of it is, from where I sit, a bit of a waste.


PS: Dish is clearly an Offset one. Nice.

So, you need a Universal LNBF, not a C120.

As for "more channels", the best way is to use a bigger dish .............. ! LNBs can make a slight difference, but they only detect what the dish has collected.

 

[chique]

Dont mind the cost of Freesat Box as winter here can close in sometimes so good to have plenty of what little I have recorded like a good series.

Which LNB would be more suitable or is there another that might give me a few more channels

 

[Lazarus]

AFAIK, the Invacom should be ok. Also consider the Inverto Black Ultra.

But I suggest you wait a few hours until others chip in with their thoughts, as there is always an element of personal experience involved - and that can mean disagreement!

 

[chique]

sorry tivu

Only read the top of your last post before replying :-)

I am thinking of going for a larger dish at some point but not sure how big to go I think I read minimum 3.5 for 2D

The one I have only cost 100 pounds including the konig and sky box and single LNB so up to now have not spent very much

 

[Lazarus]

I've just checked the list of Channels you Posted earlier in the Thread and it seems you are getting good reception of Eurobird, so the Freesat EPG, Software Update Stream etc should be no problem for you.

But, as with BSkyB, getting the EPG does not mean getting all the Channels listed thereon!!