My satellite setup

[John Pykett]

Hi welcome, I use channel master 1.2 dish, same as one in picture below , I use various receivers.
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is it motorized and where it is pointing to?

 

[John Pykett]

Anybody remember when Manhattan was just a normal sat receiver make? I remember them, Force and Echostar, names gone almost now.

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manhattan is still around they have a website you know? manhattan-tv.com

 

[blademedia]

is it motorized and where it is pointing to?

Yes motorised. picture was example, unsure where that ones pointing but reception will not be good.

 

[John Pykett]

Yes motorised. picture was example, unsure where that ones pointing but reception will not be good.

what is bad about the reception?

 

[blademedia]

what is bad about the reception?

Its not my dish picture was example of the type I use, its not good practice to point a dish at a house, dish needs line of sight.

 

[Vipersan]

How far back do you want to go mate ..
Welcome btw ..
-----a potted history----
All the way back to the first dedicated TV service in the UK ..
Back when Sky was BSB ...and broadcast in circular polarisation from MarcoPolo ..
Back then it was of course Analogue ..
Other services were available of course but these were not UK specific ...and required large dishes and motorisation as a minimum ..
Back then it could easily cost you a couple of grand for the gear ..
Only when BSB started up and fixed dishes pointing at Astra 19.2 around 90cm did it become of economic and practical interest to the masses.
Really sat as we know it today ..re digital went through a few manifestations such as Dmac ...until a standard was accepted ...
In the UK this was Videocrypt ..
All change after that ...That phase of satellite distibution had more in common with Analogue ..
I suppose you could call it encrypted Analogue ..
True digital is what we have today our arc slot being 28.2 E (Encyption format NDS/Videoguard)..though Dmac and D2MAC not used by the UK _were_ digital formats in their own right..
The rest as they say ..IS history ..

 

[John Pykett]

How far back do you want to go mate ..
Welcome btw ..
-----a potted history----
All the way back to the first dedicated TV service in the UK ..
Back when Sky was BSB ...and broadcast in circular polarisation from MarcoPolo ..
Back then it was of course Analogue ..
Other services were available of course but these were not UK specific ...and required large dishes and motorisation as a minimum ..
Back then it could easily cost you a couple of grand for the gear ..
Only when BSB started up and fixed dishes pointing at Astra 19.2 around 90cm did it become of economic and practical interest to the masses.
Really sat as we know it today ..re digital went through a few manifestations such as Dmac ...until a standard was accepted ...
In the UK this was Videocrypt ..
All change after that ...That phase of satellite distibution had more in common with Analogue ..
I suppose you could call it encrypted Analogue ..
True digital is what we have today our arc slot being 28.2 E (Encyption format NDS/Videoguard)..though Dmac and D2MAC not used by the UK _were_ digital formats in their own right..
The rest as they say ..IS history ..

i got question, why was analog satellite reception better than digital satellite reception?

 

[satesco]

I don't know if the analog reception was better then now.What was important in the analog period was that you saw the image even if the signal was weak.Then you shouldn't have locked this signal.It is true that with many "fleas".While now,in the digital era,you can't lock than the useful signal.

 

[John Pykett]

I don't know if the analog reception was better then now.What was important in the analog period was that you saw the image even if the signal was weak.Then you shouldn't have locked this signal.It is true that with many "fleas".While now,in the digital era,you can't lock than the useful signal.

true but now if signal is weak its get distorted and stuff

 

[satesco]

Now we have BER in place of "fleas"

 

[John Pykett]

Now we have BER in place of "fleas"

bit error rate? what is that?

 

[lovelyperson]

bit error rate? what is that?

Should help:-

Bit error rate - Wikipedia

Best wishes.

 

[John Pykett]

Should help:-

Bit error rate - Wikipedia

Best wishes.

also i wonder why some channels on freesat have weaker quality than others is it because of spotbeam?

 

[lovelyperson]

also i wonder why some channels on freesat have weaker quality than others is it because of spotbeam?

Based in the U.K. with your beams I would not have thought so....here different matter eg:- 12129 V 27500 2/3 on Astra 2E U.K. spot beam....not so easy!

 

[Lazarus]

There is indeed variation, even with three fairly new birds in place. But not enough to trouble anyone in the UK, in practical terms.

Precise location and attitude of each craft, HD or SD, FEC, Polarisation etc all seem to have some minor effect.

Was a lot worse with the ailing birds a few years ago!

And then there is the question of LNB performance across the band .... definitely not flat ..... and also compatibility between LNBs and Receivers. Hard to quantify, though but.

 

[lovelyperson]

There is indeed variation, even with three fairly new birds in place. But not enough to trouble anyone in the UK, in practical terms.

Precise location and attitude of each craft, HD or SD, FEC, Polarisation etc all seem to have some minor effect.

Was a lot worse with the ailing birds a few years ago!

And then there is the question of LNB performance across the band .... definitely not flat ..... and also compatibility between LNBs and Receivers. Hard to quantify, though but.

Good morning, hope all is good with you.

Yes, seems not so long ago Astra 2D was seen as a swear word by many here!...............more than ever, skew is vital for optimum reception now.

Be safe.

 

[John Pykett]

Based in the U.K. with your beams I would not have thought so....here different matter eg:- 12129 V 27500 2/3 on Astra 2E U.K. spot beam....not so easy!

ill check that frequency on freesat to check quality

 

[John Pykett]

There is indeed variation, even with three fairly new birds in place. But not enough to trouble anyone in the UK, in practical terms.

Precise location and attitude of each craft, HD or SD, FEC, Polarisation etc all seem to have some minor effect.

Was a lot worse with the ailing birds a few years ago!

And then there is the question of LNB performance across the band .... definitely not flat ..... and also compatibility between LNBs and Receivers. Hard to quantify, though but.

why does those things you said effect signal quality such as fec and polarisation?

 

[John Pykett]

my satellite setup doing good in 2017!!!

Good morning, hope all is good with you.

Yes, seems not so long ago Astra 2D was seen as a swear word by many here!...............more than ever, skew is vital for optimum reception now.

Be safe. View attachment 100052

im back on my post to say that my satellite setup is still doing good in 2017!!

 

[Channel Hopper]

Doing good what ?