Top Tip T2-MI reception on E2 STB with SDG image - A complete step by step guide

evans · Feb 13, 2022

suedschwede said:
@ evans
please check this, copy this line to satellites.xml by 28.2E

Code:

<transponder frequency="12645000" symbol_rate="32700000" polarization="1" fec_inner="4" system="1" modulation="4" t2mi_plp_id="0" t2mi_pid="64" />

Good to hear from you mate, much thanks.....will do that and give you feedback

evans · Feb 13, 2022

satesco said:
Although I have receivers with Enigma2, I don't use them much. That's why I don't know which image can process t2 stream. Even if I don't use receivers, if, say, the OpenATV image supports this type of stream, then besides parameters (12645 V, 327023/4, 16APSK), enter PID 64 and PLP 0. I don't know what OpenATV's menu is like for T2-MI. You need to see what and how.
It's no problem if you don't have this function, because you can't see the live stream. That's all. Instead, you can view the file with TSReader by choosing from source, i.e. File. To do this, click Ctrl and TSreader. It opens right under Sources and from there chooses File. And then, enter pid and plp as in the image below.

kudos to you satmate, let me try

evans · Feb 13, 2022

suedschwede said:
@ evans
please check this, copy this line to satellites.xml by 28.2E

Code:

<transponder frequency="12645000" symbol_rate="32700000" polarization="1" fec_inner="4" system="1" modulation="4" t2mi_plp_id="0" t2mi_pid="64" />

it worked mate, thanks so much

evans · Feb 13, 2022

satesco said:
Although I have receivers with Enigma2, I don't use them much. That's why I don't know which image can process t2 stream. Even if I don't use receivers, if, say, the OpenATV image supports this type of stream, then besides parameters (12645 V, 327023/4, 16APSK), enter PID 64 and PLP 0. I don't know what OpenATV's menu is like for T2-MI. You need to see what and how.
It's no problem if you don't have this function, because you can't see the live stream. That's all. Instead, you can view the file with TSReader by choosing from source, i.e. File. To do this, click Ctrl and TSreader. It opens right under Sources and from there chooses File. And then, enter pid and plp as in the image below.

I do not see the place to enter pid and plp, seems my version doesn't support T2MI

satesco · Feb 13, 2022

Why haven't you tried 4T2 Content Analyser? No license is required for recorded files, as I have shown in the tutorial.
But the most convenient for you is to use the AltDVB v2.4 player. It can scan T2-MI transponders with no problems.
I attach a video clip of this player at 54.0E, where there are some t2-mi transponders. Instead of pid 4069, you use pid 64 and plp 0 for 12645 V.

EnoSat · Feb 13, 2022

evans said:
Hello

Thanks so much, bud, I really appreciate all your efforts, I have a recorded TS file for your scrutiny
anyone can also download and have a look
interestingly, after scanning with crazyScan and analyzing with transedit, I found something
View attachment 141033

I will try and pay for the 0.10.2.3 for 4T2 Content Analyser and see how it goes.
Thanks

stored file different as stream
TID 0000 vs 03A2
lenght T2MI 4b vs 0b
DataRate 50Mbps vs 35Mbps

evans · Feb 13, 2022

satesco said:
Why haven't you tried 4T2 Content Analyser? No license is required for recorded files, as I have shown in the tutorial.
But the most convenient for you is to use the AltDVB v2.4 player. It can scan T2-MI transponders with no problems.
I attach a video clip of this player at 54.0E, where there are some t2-mi transponders. Instead of pid 4069, you use pid 64 and plp 0 for 12645 V.

Video is private...

EnoSat · Feb 13, 2022

evans said:
Hello Satesco,
I am giving your tutorial a shot
the channel I was trying to analyze may not be T2-MI, the input stream displays multi 171, 172, 173
not like single in your case.
View attachment 141022

try

Code:

    <sat name="Astra2 AFRICA (28.2E)" flags="2" position="281">
        <transponder frequency="10975000" symbol_rate="30000000" polarization="0" fec_inner="4" system="1" modulation="1"/>
        <transponder frequency="11015000" symbol_rate="30000000" polarization="0" fec_inner="4" system="1" modulation="1"/>
        <transponder frequency="11095000" symbol_rate="30000000" polarization="1" fec_inner="4" system="1" modulation="2"/>
        <transponder frequency="11595000" symbol_rate="30000000" polarization="1" fec_inner="4" system="1" modulation="1"/>
        <transponder frequency="11635000" symbol_rate="30000000" polarization="1" fec_inner="4" system="1" modulation="1"/>
        <transponder frequency="11635000" symbol_rate="30000000" polarization="0" fec_inner="4" system="1" modulation="1"/>
        <transponder frequency="11675000" symbol_rate="30000000" polarization="1" fec_inner="4" system="1" modulation="1"/>
        <transponder frequency="11675000" symbol_rate="30000000" polarization="0" fec_inner="4" system="1" modulation="1"/>
        <transponder frequency="12525000" symbol_rate="30000000" polarization="1" fec_inner="4" system="1" modulation="1"/>
        <transponder frequency="12578000" symbol_rate="3000000" polarization="1" fec_inner="4" system="1" modulation="1"/>
        <transponder frequency="12606000" symbol_rate="30000000" polarization="1" fec_inner="4" system="1" modulation="1"/>
        <transponder frequency="12645000" symbol_rate="32700000" polarization="1" fec_inner="4" system="1" modulation="4" t2mi_plp_id="0" t2mi_pid="64" />
        <transponder frequency="12645000" symbol_rate="32700000" polarization="1" fec_inner="3" system="1" modulation="4" is_id="171" t2mi_plp_id="0" t2mi_pid="64" />
        <transponder frequency="12645000" symbol_rate="32700000" polarization="1" fec_inner="3" system="1" modulation="4" is_id="172" t2mi_plp_id="0" t2mi_pid="64" />
        <transponder frequency="12645000" symbol_rate="32700000" polarization="1" fec_inner="3" system="1" modulation="4" is_id="173" t2mi_plp_id="0" t2mi_pid="64" />
        <transponder frequency="12726000" symbol_rate="30000000" polarization="1" fec_inner="4" system="1" modulation="1"/>
    </sat>

satesco · Feb 13, 2022

evans said:
Video is private...

Try this link

Vimeo

vimeo.com

EnoSat · Feb 13, 2022

PS: 28E12645V.txt - analyze file in astra-sm , 0281.tplist - transponders file for AltDVB

evans · Feb 13, 2022

AltDVB v2.4 player scans T2MI but cannot play streams.........crushes

EnoSat · Feb 13, 2022

change video codec or try instal LAV

evans · Feb 13, 2022

EnoSat said:
change video codec or try instal LAV
View attachment 141059

thanks, buddy...hehe

evans · Feb 13, 2022

evans · Feb 14, 2022

Thanks to all the guys who supported my journey to extracting T2MI parameters from stream @ satesco, @EnoSat, @suedschwede et al
I was able to record TS stream for EUTELSAT@36>>sub saharan beam<< with crazyScan. thereafter, I analysed the stream for T2MI parameters

-- T2MI Eutelsat 36e --
12267 V 31430 input stream-[102, 103] 16APSK, fec 23/36
12382 V 31430 input stream-[101, 109] 16APSK, fec 13/18
12420 V 31431 input stream-[105, 106] 8PSK, fec 3/4

t2mi parameters
*12267
pid 4096, plp 7,8 and 40

*12382
pid 4096
plp 9,25

*12420
pid 4096
plp0,1,2

Code:

----------- the transponders i exported from crazyscan ----------------------
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="iso-8859-1"?>
<satellites>
    <sat name="Eutelsat 36" flags="5" position="360">
        <transponder frequency="11223000" symbol_rate="30000000" polarization="1" fec_inner="4" system="1" modulation="1" rolloff="2" pilot="0"/>
        <transponder frequency="11264000" symbol_rate="30000000" polarization="1" fec_inner="4" system="1" modulation="1" rolloff="2" pilot="0"/>
        <transponder frequency="11306000" symbol_rate="30000000" polarization="1" fec_inner="4" system="1" modulation="1" rolloff="2" pilot="0"/>
        <transponder frequency="11347000" symbol_rate="30000000" polarization="1" fec_inner="4" system="1" modulation="1" rolloff="2" pilot="0"/>
        <transponder frequency="11389000" symbol_rate="30000000" polarization="1" fec_inner="4" system="1" modulation="1" rolloff="2" pilot="0"/>
        <transponder frequency="11430000" symbol_rate="30000000" polarization="1" fec_inner="4" system="1" modulation="1" rolloff="2" pilot="0"/>
        <transponder frequency="11729000" symbol_rate="27500000" polarization="1" fec_inner="2" system="1" modulation="2" rolloff="2" pilot="1"/>
        <transponder frequency="11768000" symbol_rate="27500000" polarization="1" fec_inner="3" system="0" modulation="1" rolloff="0"/>
        <transponder frequency="11807000" symbol_rate="27500000" polarization="1" fec_inner="2" system="1" modulation="2" rolloff="2" pilot="1"/>
        <transponder frequency="11845000" symbol_rate="27500000" polarization="1" fec_inner="3" system="0" modulation="1" rolloff="0"/>
        <transponder frequency="11884000" symbol_rate="27500000" polarization="1" fec_inner="3" system="0" modulation="1" rolloff="0"/>
        <transponder frequency="11922000" symbol_rate="27500000" polarization="1" fec_inner="3" system="0" modulation="1" rolloff="0"/>
        <transponder frequency="11960000" symbol_rate="27500000" polarization="1" fec_inner="3" system="0" modulation="1" rolloff="0"/>
        <transponder frequency="11999000" symbol_rate="27500000" polarization="1" fec_inner="2" system="1" modulation="2" rolloff="2" pilot="1"/>
        <transponder frequency="12037000" symbol_rate="27500000" polarization="1" fec_inner="3" system="0" modulation="1" rolloff="0"/>
        <transponder frequency="12075000" symbol_rate="27500000" polarization="1" fec_inner="3" system="0" modulation="1" rolloff="0"/>
        <transponder frequency="12114000" symbol_rate="27500000" polarization="1" fec_inner="2" system="1" modulation="2" rolloff="2" pilot="1"/>
        <transponder frequency="12152000" symbol_rate="27500000" polarization="1" fec_inner="3" system="0" modulation="1" rolloff="0"/>
        <transponder frequency="12267000" symbol_rate="31430000" polarization="1" fec_inner="0" system="1" modulation="3" rolloff="3" pilot="1" is_id="102"/>
        <transponder frequency="12267000" symbol_rate="31430000" polarization="1" fec_inner="0" system="1" modulation="3" rolloff="3" pilot="1" is_id="103"/>
        <transponder frequency="12305000" symbol_rate="27500000" polarization="1" fec_inner="3" system="0" modulation="1" rolloff="0"/>
        <transponder frequency="12344000" symbol_rate="27500000" polarization="1" fec_inner="2" system="1" modulation="2" rolloff="2" pilot="1"/>
        <transponder frequency="12382000" symbol_rate="31430000" polarization="1" fec_inner="0" system="1" modulation="3" rolloff="3" pilot="1" is_id="101"/>
        <transponder frequency="12382000" symbol_rate="31430000" polarization="1" fec_inner="0" system="1" modulation="3" rolloff="3" pilot="1" is_id="109"/>
        <transponder frequency="12421000" symbol_rate="31430000" polarization="1" fec_inner="3" system="1" modulation="2" rolloff="2" pilot="1" is_id="105"/>
        <transponder frequency="12421000" symbol_rate="31430000" polarization="1" fec_inner="3" system="1" modulation="2" rolloff="2" pilot="1" is_id="106"/>
    </sat>
</satellites>

evans · Feb 14, 2022

Code:

------ adding the t2mi parameters ------------------------------
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="iso-8859-1"?>
<satellites>
    <sat name="Eutelsat 36" flags="5" position="360">
        <transponder frequency="11223000" symbol_rate="30000000" polarization="1" fec_inner="4" system="1" modulation="1" rolloff="2" pilot="0"/>
        <transponder frequency="11264000" symbol_rate="30000000" polarization="1" fec_inner="4" system="1" modulation="1" rolloff="2" pilot="0"/>
        <transponder frequency="11306000" symbol_rate="30000000" polarization="1" fec_inner="4" system="1" modulation="1" rolloff="2" pilot="0"/>
        <transponder frequency="11347000" symbol_rate="30000000" polarization="1" fec_inner="4" system="1" modulation="1" rolloff="2" pilot="0"/>
        <transponder frequency="11389000" symbol_rate="30000000" polarization="1" fec_inner="4" system="1" modulation="1" rolloff="2" pilot="0"/>
        <transponder frequency="11430000" symbol_rate="30000000" polarization="1" fec_inner="4" system="1" modulation="1" rolloff="2" pilot="0"/>
        <transponder frequency="11729000" symbol_rate="27500000" polarization="1" fec_inner="2" system="1" modulation="2" rolloff="2" pilot="1"/>
        <transponder frequency="11768000" symbol_rate="27500000" polarization="1" fec_inner="3" system="0" modulation="1" rolloff="0"/>
        <transponder frequency="11807000" symbol_rate="27500000" polarization="1" fec_inner="2" system="1" modulation="2" rolloff="2" pilot="1"/>
        <transponder frequency="11845000" symbol_rate="27500000" polarization="1" fec_inner="3" system="0" modulation="1" rolloff="0"/>
        <transponder frequency="11884000" symbol_rate="27500000" polarization="1" fec_inner="3" system="0" modulation="1" rolloff="0"/>
        <transponder frequency="11922000" symbol_rate="27500000" polarization="1" fec_inner="3" system="0" modulation="1" rolloff="0"/>
        <transponder frequency="11960000" symbol_rate="27500000" polarization="1" fec_inner="3" system="0" modulation="1" rolloff="0"/>
        <transponder frequency="11999000" symbol_rate="27500000" polarization="1" fec_inner="2" system="1" modulation="2" rolloff="2" pilot="1"/>
        <transponder frequency="12037000" symbol_rate="27500000" polarization="1" fec_inner="3" system="0" modulation="1" rolloff="0"/>
        <transponder frequency="12075000" symbol_rate="27500000" polarization="1" fec_inner="3" system="0" modulation="1" rolloff="0"/>
        <transponder frequency="12114000" symbol_rate="27500000" polarization="1" fec_inner="2" system="1" modulation="2" rolloff="2" pilot="1"/>
        <transponder frequency="12152000" symbol_rate="27500000" polarization="1" fec_inner="3" system="0" modulation="1" rolloff="0"/>
        <transponder frequency="12267000" symbol_rate="31430000" polarization="1" fec_inner="0" system="1" modulation="3" rolloff="3" pilot="1" t2mi_plp_id="7" t2mi_pid="4096" />
        <transponder frequency="12267000" symbol_rate="31430000" polarization="1" fec_inner="0" system="1" modulation="3" rolloff="3" pilot="1" t2mi_plp_id="8" t2mi_pid="4096" />
        <transponder frequency="12267000" symbol_rate="31430000" polarization="1" fec_inner="0" system="1" modulation="3" rolloff="3" pilot="1" t2mi_plp_id="40" t2mi_pid="4096" />
        <transponder frequency="12267000" symbol_rate="31430000" polarization="1" fec_inner="0" system="1" modulation="3" rolloff="3" pilot="1" is_id="102"/> t2mi_plp_id="7" t2mi_pid="4096" />
        <transponder frequency="12267000" symbol_rate="31430000" polarization="1" fec_inner="0" system="1" modulation="3" rolloff="3" pilot="1" is_id="102"/> t2mi_plp_id="8" t2mi_pid="4096" />
        <transponder frequency="12267000" symbol_rate="31430000" polarization="1" fec_inner="0" system="1" modulation="3" rolloff="3" pilot="1" is_id="102"/> t2mi_plp_id="40" t2mi_pid="4096" />
        <transponder frequency="12267000" symbol_rate="31430000" polarization="1" fec_inner="0" system="1" modulation="3" rolloff="3" pilot="1" is_id="103"/> t2mi_plp_id="7" t2mi_pid="4096" />
        <transponder frequency="12267000" symbol_rate="31430000" polarization="1" fec_inner="0" system="1" modulation="3" rolloff="3" pilot="1" is_id="103"/> t2mi_plp_id="8" t2mi_pid="4096" />
        <transponder frequency="12267000" symbol_rate="31430000" polarization="1" fec_inner="0" system="1" modulation="3" rolloff="3" pilot="1" is_id="103"/> t2mi_plp_id="40" t2mi_pid="4096" />       
        <transponder frequency="12305000" symbol_rate="27500000" polarization="1" fec_inner="3" system="0" modulation="1" rolloff="0"/>
        <transponder frequency="12344000" symbol_rate="27500000" polarization="1" fec_inner="2" system="1" modulation="2" rolloff="2" pilot="1"/>       
        <transponder frequency="12382000" symbol_rate="31430000" polarization="1" fec_inner="0" system="1" modulation="3" rolloff="3" pilot="1"  t2mi_plp_id="9" t2mi_pid="4096" />
        <transponder frequency="12382000" symbol_rate="31430000" polarization="1" fec_inner="0" system="1" modulation="3" rolloff="3" pilot="1"  t2mi_plp_id="25" t2mi_pid="4096" />
        <transponder frequency="12382000" symbol_rate="31430000" polarization="1" fec_inner="0" system="1" modulation="3" rolloff="3" pilot="1" is_id="101"/> t2mi_plp_id="9" t2mi_pid="4096" />
        <transponder frequency="12382000" symbol_rate="31430000" polarization="1" fec_inner="0" system="1" modulation="3" rolloff="3" pilot="1" is_id="101"/> t2mi_plp_id="25" t2mi_pid="4096" />
        <transponder frequency="12382000" symbol_rate="31430000" polarization="1" fec_inner="0" system="1" modulation="3" rolloff="3" pilot="1" is_id="109"/> t2mi_plp_id="9" t2mi_pid="4096" />
        <transponder frequency="12382000" symbol_rate="31430000" polarization="1" fec_inner="0" system="1" modulation="3" rolloff="3" pilot="1" is_id="109"/> t2mi_plp_id="25" t2mi_pid="4096" />   
        <transponder frequency="12421000" symbol_rate="31430000" polarization="1" fec_inner="3" system="1" modulation="2" rolloff="2" pilot="1" t2mi_plp_id="0" t2mi_pid="4096" />
        <transponder frequency="12421000" symbol_rate="31430000" polarization="1" fec_inner="3" system="1" modulation="2" rolloff="2" pilot="1" t2mi_plp_id="1" t2mi_pid="4096" />
        <transponder frequency="12421000" symbol_rate="31430000" polarization="1" fec_inner="3" system="1" modulation="2" rolloff="2" pilot="1" t2mi_plp_id="2" t2mi_pid="4096" />
        <transponder frequency="12421000" symbol_rate="31430000" polarization="1" fec_inner="3" system="1" modulation="2" rolloff="2" pilot="1" is_id="105"/> t2mi_plp_id="0" t2mi_pid="4096" />
        <transponder frequency="12421000" symbol_rate="31430000" polarization="1" fec_inner="3" system="1" modulation="2" rolloff="2" pilot="1" is_id="105"/> t2mi_plp_id="1" t2mi_pid="4096" />
        <transponder frequency="12421000" symbol_rate="31430000" polarization="1" fec_inner="3" system="1" modulation="2" rolloff="2" pilot="1" is_id="105"/> t2mi_plp_id="2" t2mi_pid="4096" />
        <transponder frequency="12421000" symbol_rate="31430000" polarization="1" fec_inner="3" system="1" modulation="2" rolloff="2" pilot="1" t2mi_plp_id="0" t2mi_pid="4096" />
        <transponder frequency="12421000" symbol_rate="31430000" polarization="1" fec_inner="3" system="1" modulation="2" rolloff="2" pilot="1" t2mi_plp_id="1" t2mi_pid="4096" />
        <transponder frequency="12421000" symbol_rate="31430000" polarization="1" fec_inner="3" system="1" modulation="2" rolloff="2" pilot="1" t2mi_plp_id="2" t2mi_pid="4096" />
        <transponder frequency="12421000" symbol_rate="31430000" polarization="1" fec_inner="3" system="1" modulation="2" rolloff="2" pilot="1" is_id="106"/> t2mi_plp_id="0" t2mi_pid="4096" />
        <transponder frequency="12421000" symbol_rate="31430000" polarization="1" fec_inner="3" system="1" modulation="2" rolloff="2" pilot="1" is_id="106"/> t2mi_plp_id="1" t2mi_pid="4096" />
        <transponder frequency="12421000" symbol_rate="31430000" polarization="1" fec_inner="3" system="1" modulation="2" rolloff="2" pilot="1" is_id="106"/> t2mi_plp_id="2" t2mi_pid="4096" />

Please help me check if the codes are ok
then finally, I have been able to extract T2MI, my question is what about if the stream is a

TRANSPORT STREAM TYPE = MULTISTREAM

INPUT STREAM ID = 000

PLS MODE = GOLD/COMBO/ROOT

PLS CODE =000000

which software do you use? same 4T2 Content Analyser or one will need a different software

Thanks

MCelliotG · Feb 14, 2022

Multistream is primarily a tuner dependent transmission, so provided you have a MIS capable tuner and enough signal, you will be able to see the streams with the same tools. You need to check the PLS codes they are all there on all satellite list sites.

evans · Feb 14, 2022

MCelliotG said:
Multistream is primarily a tuner dependent transmission, so provided you have a MIS capable tuner and enough signal, you will be able to see the streams with the same tools. You need to check the PLS codes they are all there on all satellite list sites.

Thank you mate, from my part of the region, most of our satellite parameters are not listed on satellite, mostly not online, one needs to extract these parameters himself

Babadem · Feb 18, 2022

This is an excellent thread for beginners like me as it regards analyzing T2-MI signals. Thanks to the thread contributors, and the OP.

Babadem · Feb 18, 2022

satesco said:
Thanks to our good colleague, EnoSat, who posted my two tutorial videos on youtube (whom I thank on this occasion), I thought it would be better to view them on the forum with no additional operations.
I hope to be excused for the redundancy of my message.

Is the TSReader used in this Tutorial Standard or professional version?

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