Testing New White Sky UK Card - CAID 963

Joined
Aug 7, 2008
Messages
34
Reaction score
1
Points
0
Age
43
My Satellite Setup
Dreambox DM600 Official, DM500S Clone, Linux MythTV, Nova-T USB2 Stick, Nova-S-USB2 Tuner, S*y Subs, TRex -CAM, Satelco EasyWatch PCI DVB-S + CI Interface
My Location
West Midlands, England
Worryingly, I just get "Entitlements for Reader 0 not found!"
I DO see Entitlements when the blue card is inserted though.
I wonder if the white card is stuffed. I've not noticed any issues with heat. How queer..

Is it possible to 'test' the white card in a sky box - it can definitely see that its inserted as without it, it says 'please insert card'?
 

Oakey22

Regular Member
Joined
Aug 27, 2009
Messages
131
Reaction score
0
Points
0
Age
40
My Satellite Setup
Penta 85cm, Quad LND, DM8000,Nabilosat Blackhole v11.
My Location
Staffordshire
i cant get the white card to show entitlements in NewCS either, but my blue card does, my white card just makes the page crash.
 

B16MCC

Dreambox Gimp & Coder
Joined
Nov 16, 2005
Messages
1,562
Reaction score
8
Points
0
Age
51
My Satellite Setup
2 Dreamboxes..........
---------------------------------------------
--- DM 8000 HD PVR & DM 800 HD ---
Motek SG2100 & Triax 80cm Dual LNB
------ Fixed Dish 28e Quad LNB -------
---- Sly HD Full & 24" Apple iMAC ----
My Location
/var/tuxbox/config
OK guys if you're not seeing any entitlements it can only be the wrong boxkey or an activation problem. My best suggestion is to put the card back in the sly box its paired with and wait a night or 2 with the box on Sly One. If after 3 days you have nothing, ring sly and tell them you have a problem with the new card. They'll send out a reactivate signal and the card will come alive. They don't tend to bother asking questions, they just do it.

Once you've done this, be absolutely certain you have the correct boxkey in your newcs.xml and then put the card back in NewCS and check entitlements.
 
Joined
Jun 8, 2009
Messages
32
Reaction score
0
Points
6
Age
54
My Satellite Setup
DM7025
DM600 x 2
DM100 x 2
My Location
Liverpool
Finally got mine working last night. big thanks to B16MMC, for the config software and the box key generator ( the latest software is not taking the sly box serial number - although the serial from the service screen worked perfectly, but one of them left a leading zero out of the final box key number).

I did have a few problems with freezing when using a LT Team image I think this was due to an older version of newcs finally swapped over to v10 of nabilosat blackhole on my 7025 with newsc 1.66 and cccam 2.1.1 and all is working perfectly.

next thing to try is getting a omnikey 3121 to work as an external reader.

cheers to all that have helped on this thread

Ian
 

Oakey22

Regular Member
Joined
Aug 27, 2009
Messages
131
Reaction score
0
Points
0
Age
40
My Satellite Setup
Penta 85cm, Quad LND, DM8000,Nabilosat Blackhole v11.
My Location
Staffordshire
My white card works fine in my sky box, it might have been the wrong box key like you said as i get 2 different keys from the 2 programs you have, i will try it with the NDS Box key creator in a moment.
 

Oakey22

Regular Member
Joined
Aug 27, 2009
Messages
131
Reaction score
0
Points
0
Age
40
My Satellite Setup
Penta 85cm, Quad LND, DM8000,Nabilosat Blackhole v11.
My Location
Staffordshire
I now having a problem, i use the newcs.xml file from your program and when i put it on my dm8000 it will not decode any channels but i delete the newcs.xml file on my dm8000 and it decodes them?
 

B16MCC

Dreambox Gimp & Coder
Joined
Nov 16, 2005
Messages
1,562
Reaction score
8
Points
0
Age
51
My Satellite Setup
2 Dreamboxes..........
---------------------------------------------
--- DM 8000 HD PVR & DM 800 HD ---
Motek SG2100 & Triax 80cm Dual LNB
------ Fixed Dish 28e Quad LNB -------
---- Sly HD Full & 24" Apple iMAC ----
My Location
/var/tuxbox/config
Oakey22, that's a little vague mate.

What else is your DM8000 connected to ?
Are you card sharing ?
Is it decrypting the channels from a card share ?
When you put the xml file in place, what emu are you running and how are you starting it ?
The xml file by itself is useless, you need NewCS 1.66/1.67 installed and you also need to be running CCcam to access the card hosted by NewCS.
Could you give a lot more detail on your problem please.
 

Oakey22

Regular Member
Joined
Aug 27, 2009
Messages
131
Reaction score
0
Points
0
Age
40
My Satellite Setup
Penta 85cm, Quad LND, DM8000,Nabilosat Blackhole v11.
My Location
Staffordshire
right the full story here goes, it is running on nabliosat v11 blackhole,
no card sharing,
it is decrypting from my blue card at the moment but setting this up so i can then use the white card
DM8000 is only connected to Ethernet
i am putting the newcs.xml in the etc/tuxbox/config by ftp and then going to blue button and turning the cam onto Common Interface, then back onto NewCs_1.66/CCcam_2.1.1
It also comes up with no ECM found when i am on the blue button.
 

Oakey22

Regular Member
Joined
Aug 27, 2009
Messages
131
Reaction score
0
Points
0
Age
40
My Satellite Setup
Penta 85cm, Quad LND, DM8000,Nabilosat Blackhole v11.
My Location
Staffordshire
to add a bit to the blue card part, i am losing my encryption to the blue card and dont get any with the white when i put the newcs.xml file on the dm8000 but the blue card returns decrypting when i delete the newcs.xml
 

B16MCC

Dreambox Gimp & Coder
Joined
Nov 16, 2005
Messages
1,562
Reaction score
8
Points
0
Age
51
My Satellite Setup
2 Dreamboxes..........
---------------------------------------------
--- DM 8000 HD PVR & DM 800 HD ---
Motek SG2100 & Triax 80cm Dual LNB
------ Fixed Dish 28e Quad LNB -------
---- Sly HD Full & 24" Apple iMAC ----
My Location
/var/tuxbox/config
OK, your blue card is working directly in CCcam but when you put the newcs.xml file in place, its taking control of your card readers away from CCcam. The fact that you now get nothing clearing means you must have a problem in your newcs.xml or your CCcam.cfg

Have you setup your CCcam.cfg to access your NewCS server ?
 

Oakey22

Regular Member
Joined
Aug 27, 2009
Messages
131
Reaction score
0
Points
0
Age
40
My Satellite Setup
Penta 85cm, Quad LND, DM8000,Nabilosat Blackhole v11.
My Location
Staffordshire
i have inserted the cccam.cfg file into usr/bin with this in it

# This file was created with NewCS & CCcam Config Creator Written By B16MCC
N: 192.168.0.12 15000 CCcam CCcam 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14
N: 192.168.0.12 15001 CCcam CCcam 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14
 

Oakey22

Regular Member
Joined
Aug 27, 2009
Messages
131
Reaction score
0
Points
0
Age
40
My Satellite Setup
Penta 85cm, Quad LND, DM8000,Nabilosat Blackhole v11.
My Location
Staffordshire
and my newcs.xml is
<?xml version="1.0"?>


<newcsconfig>
<globals>
<listening-ip>192.168.0.12</listening-ip>
</globals>
<readers name="Dreambox SCI">
<device>
<name>Lower Reader</name>
<type>sci</type>
<mhz>368</mhz>
<node>/dev/sci0</node>
<parity>odd</parity>
<reset>normal</reset>
<export>yes</export>
<enabled>yes</enabled>
<boxkey>*******</boxkey>
<blocksa>no</blocksa>
<blockua>no</blockua>
<blockga>yes</blockga>
<blockc0>yes</blockc0>
<carddetect>yes</carddetect>
<newcamd_port>15000</newcamd_port>
<autosid>Yes</autosid>
<pincode>0000</pincode>
<priority>round</priority>
</device>

<device>
<name>Upper Reader</name>
<type>sci</type>
<mhz>368</mhz>
<node>/dev/sci1</node>
<parity>odd</parity>
<reset>normal</reset>
<export>yes</export>
<enabled>yes</enabled>
<boxkey>*******</boxkey>
<blocksa>no</blocksa>
<blockua>no</blockua>
<blockga>yes</blockga>
<blockc0>yes</blockc0>
<carddetect>yes</carddetect>
<newcamd_port>15001</newcamd_port>
<autosid>Yes</autosid>
<pincode>0000</pincode>
<priority>round</priority>
</device>

</readers>

<radegastserver>
<enabled>no</enabled>
<port>10001</port>
<allow>
<hostname>localhost</hostname>
</allow>
</radegastserver>

<cache>
<emm>20</emm>
<ecm>-1</ecm>
</cache>

<httpd>
<server>
<port>8080</port>
<enabled>yes</enabled>
</server>
<user>
<name>admin</name>
<password>admin</password>
<accesslevel>admin</accesslevel>
</user>
</httpd>

<debug>
<password>NewCSpwd</password>
<mode>simple</mode>
<level>internal</level>
<type>all</type>
<output>console,tcp</output>
<tcp_port>1001</tcp_port>
<tcp_options>normal,init</tcp_options>
</debug>

<newcamdserver>
<enabled>yes</enabled>
<name>NewCS</name>
<deskey>01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14</deskey>
<user>
<name>CCcam</name>
<password>CCcam</password>
<au>on</au>
<sidoverride>off</sidoverride>
<spider>no</spider>
<cardlevel>1</cardlevel>
</user>
</newcamdserver>
</newcsconfig>
 

B16MCC

Dreambox Gimp & Coder
Joined
Nov 16, 2005
Messages
1,562
Reaction score
8
Points
0
Age
51
My Satellite Setup
2 Dreamboxes..........
---------------------------------------------
--- DM 8000 HD PVR &amp; DM 800 HD ---
Motek SG2100 &amp; Triax 80cm Dual LNB
------ Fixed Dish 28e Quad LNB -------
---- Sly HD Full &amp; 24&quot; Apple iMAC ----
My Location
/var/tuxbox/config
Your CCcam.cfg goes in /etc mate. Thats your problem !
 

Oakey22

Regular Member
Joined
Aug 27, 2009
Messages
131
Reaction score
0
Points
0
Age
40
My Satellite Setup
Penta 85cm, Quad LND, DM8000,Nabilosat Blackhole v11.
My Location
Staffordshire
Thanks for that, i have put both files in the locations, now my blue card works but still getting nothing in the white card.
 

B16MCC

Dreambox Gimp & Coder
Joined
Nov 16, 2005
Messages
1,562
Reaction score
8
Points
0
Age
51
My Satellite Setup
2 Dreamboxes..........
---------------------------------------------
--- DM 8000 HD PVR &amp; DM 800 HD ---
Motek SG2100 &amp; Triax 80cm Dual LNB
------ Fixed Dish 28e Quad LNB -------
---- Sly HD Full &amp; 24&quot; Apple iMAC ----
My Location
/var/tuxbox/config
Just confirm mate, you need to put CCcam.cfg in /etc and newcs.xml in var/tuxbox/config

If you use my software it will take care of it.
 

Oakey22

Regular Member
Joined
Aug 27, 2009
Messages
131
Reaction score
0
Points
0
Age
40
My Satellite Setup
Penta 85cm, Quad LND, DM8000,Nabilosat Blackhole v11.
My Location
Staffordshire
i have put those 2 files in the locations you mentioned. I dont know why it is not working. The white card has been in my sky box for the past month or so so should be activated with that box.
 

Oakey22

Regular Member
Joined
Aug 27, 2009
Messages
131
Reaction score
0
Points
0
Age
40
My Satellite Setup
Penta 85cm, Quad LND, DM8000,Nabilosat Blackhole v11.
My Location
Staffordshire
I have also found that i can not load the NewCs interface on my laptop when the white card is in it, it just seems to hang and do nothing.
 

woodseaves

Member
Joined
Jul 22, 2008
Messages
43
Reaction score
0
Points
6
Age
79
My Satellite Setup
Dreambox 8000HD S, Dreambox 7025i, Fibo 1.2 fixed on 7W, 90cm Motorised System.
My Location
Hereford
Hi,
Well I have eventually got things working, I can see Newcmd as a server on CCCam control centre, but my 2 clients (flines)are showing offline, has anyone any idea what may need tweaking?

Regards

I now have the home side working perfect. I added another user to newcs.xml and put an N line in my DM 8K. This now means that my card is in my 7025 (kitchen) and I can get pictures unscrambled on my DM 8K (living room) Great.

However if I add my great uncle (not in this country) to the newcs as another user what would be his N line?

I have had to go down the N line route as no matter how hard I tried and how long I stayed out of bed I could not get F lines to work. I don't ask for much but I am stuck now and great uncle might stop me watching footie if I can't get it sorted. As usual any help appreciated.

Regards
 

darrenob

Member
Joined
Feb 3, 2009
Messages
22
Reaction score
0
Points
0
Age
57
My Satellite Setup
Debian Lenny CCcam 2.1.2 + NewCS 1.67 ,dreamBox 500 dm600, compaq p4, 2gb ,4mb
My Location
Out there
If you are working localy, then you need to look at your DNS to make sure it is updating to your iP address. also that you setup your routers port fowarding for both CCcam (default 12000) and also for Newcs as well (default 10000). If the white Card is not clearing double check your BoxKey the best way is not from the services menu but from the 17 digi code on the bottom of the S£y box, Then use the Masters (B16MCC) Tool to make your correct boxkey.
Note: dont bother using IE to use the web interface it does not work great use fire fox for the best results.

Also all N lines look the same for local and External connections

N: yoursDNS.org 10000 uncle pass 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14
 

B16MCC

Dreambox Gimp & Coder
Joined
Nov 16, 2005
Messages
1,562
Reaction score
8
Points
0
Age
51
My Satellite Setup
2 Dreamboxes..........
---------------------------------------------
--- DM 8000 HD PVR &amp; DM 800 HD ---
Motek SG2100 &amp; Triax 80cm Dual LNB
------ Fixed Dish 28e Quad LNB -------
---- Sly HD Full &amp; 24&quot; Apple iMAC ----
My Location
/var/tuxbox/config
woodseaves:- what darrenob has said is spot on mostly. What may be confusing you is the IP address / DNS issue. If you're sharing on your internal LAN then you'll most likely be using local IP addresses. For example if your DM7025 serving the card has an IP address of 192.168.1.100 then you N line in your DM8000 will probably start with that IP address.

N: 192.168.1.100

This ofcourse is no good for your uncle. He needs to use your external or WAN IP address. Further to that you need to forward or open the port in your router so that incoming connections from N lines are pointed to your DM7025 that is hosting the card.

So lets says your newcamd_port is 10000 on your server (DM7025). Your N line in your DM8000 will be :-
N: 192.168.1.100 10000 DM8000 password 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14

So thats the IP Address of your server box, and the port you've set in the newcs.xml to serve the card on.
In your router you need to open port 10000 to 192.168.1.100.

If your WAN IP address is 80.80.80.80 ( set by your ISP in your modem and passed to your router) then your uncles N line would be :-

N: 80.80.80.80 10000 Uncle password 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14


If your WAN IP is not static, which most aren't this could be a problem ofcourse for your uncle because if you reboot your modem and your ISP gives you a different WAN IP address which is common,then your uncles N line now contains the wrong address.

This is where DNS accounts come in handy. You can regsiter at DynDNS for a free account. This will give you info that you enter into your router which will track your WAN IP Address. Using this you can have a DNS address that always points to you even if your IP address changes.

So as darrenob has said your uncles N line would then be:-

N: woodseaves.dyndns.org 10000 Uncle password 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14

Hope this makes sense. Its really very very easy.

Now, please keep this thread on topic and don't hijack it by delving deeper into DNS addresses and port forwarding. If you need further help on this subject please use other threads or start a new one.
This thread is about 1 card and how to use it, nothing else. Cheers.
 
Top