uk bbc channels normally on 28.2 on intelsat 907 27.5w ?

[humaxboy1]

I think I was misunderstood when I talked about DM 500 HD.On your question whether this receiver can lock BBC freqc.signal,I said-Yes,it can!I also presented evidence in this regard.Only about it I talked and not about decoding.I did not said that the BBC package can be decode with this receiver.Perhaps you took my words from this topic #70 when I asked about dvBs2 card codecs,which is totally different than the receiver.
Perhaps Humaxboy1's answer about the dreambox to be valid.So far I have not managed to "enlighten" package with DM500HD!

Ok, we did clear some things . One is receiving the channels, what is not a problem, other issue is the decoding. And nobody till now is capable of doing that with enigma2 that the fact. Only receiver F-16 is capable of doing that, but they are not using enigma2.

Humaxboy

 

[Robinson74]

Now it is clear. Thanks, both of you, guys.

 

[jimbofz]

hi managed to enter pids using stbhd editor, its a variant of prv800 editor ,
did dish tweek, and get 65%signal on 11495v ,openbox allows s/r 44100 or so it seems,
loaded box with new pids .when i select 27.5w the cha id shows up
great progress
or so i thaught ,so tried tp scan no channels ,tried blind scan and t/p scan nowt
i expected to see the scrambled word!!
trawled the dxtv.de site found biss data, entered still nada.now brain hurts need lie down has anybody tried this on their openbox s9?this is beginning to be an itch i cant scratch, any help or comments would be welcome

 

[djgeo_gr]

Even if your question refers only to DM series SD version, may be is better to say that DM HD can get the BBC HD package at 27.5 W.Here is what I receive with DM 500 HD:

good afternoon my friend @satesco this signal that u have in the photo from what satellite dish u take it
how big is it?

thanks george

 

[william-1]

Hi djgeo_gr
I think you will need a 125 to 150cm dish to get this satellite in your location.

 

[satesco]

this signal that u have in the photo from what satellite dish u take it

William-1 is right:depends on the reception area!In the eastern part of Europe,you must have at least 150 cm dish to get Intelsat 907.Of the many antennas I have, only with the last I get this satellite.
Here's my 1.5 m antenna:

 

[william-1]

Nice Dish satesco :-righton

 

[jimbofz]

i want one!
has anyone managed to open 11495v with openboxs9?,
ive tried for a week now heads full of pids v pids pmt pcm ecm
and of course sid
by the way how is sid?
ive become a hermit of the spare room me and my pc

 

[Huevos]

Well I can't get this going on my E2 receiver. It locks the transponder fine (it was working the other day when the transponder was open) but now it just comes up with the "service not found in PAT" message. I tried parameters from Satesco's lamedb file but it still can't see the channels. Strange that he can see the channels on his E2 receiver and I can't on mine. Also tried the lamedb from the German site but that doesn't work either. Is anyone else using an E2 receiver and have the channels showing as available even if still encrypted?

BTW, William-1 how can you have been a member for 7 years and only have 70 posts?

 

[jimbofz]

Well Huevos ,thanks to your post it
proves im not going insane!if someone with your experience is struggling
was beginning to think it was something i was entering wrong,
in uk with 1mtr dish signal weak but it locks t/p ok
i know Llew cracked it but that was not on stand alone box see post 38
im not sure what was meant in post 59 "the ca id can be found in the pmt?
i thought the ca id was always 2600 for biss?

 

[BlindFaith]

im not sure what was meant in post 59 "the ca id can be found in the pmt?
i thought the ca id was always 2600 for biss?

CA_IDs can be in the CAT for the corresponding EMM_PIDs and in the PMT for the ECM_PIDs. There is no CAT (0x0001) in this multiplex. The PMTs are scrambled so we don't know whether they contain any CA_ID. At least there was no CA_ID when the transponder was open. Of course there are no ECM_PIDs either cos it's constant CW scrambling.

0x2600 is allocated to the European Broadcasting Union (->BISS). What I meant was that if no CA_ID can be found on the BBC Backup transponder, you can't call it BISS

 

[william-1]

BTW, William-1 how can you have been a member for 7 years and only have 70 posts?

Been busy elsewhere.

 

[Huevos]

Has anyone got this working on an STB, as opposed to a pc card?

 

[satesco]

0x2600 is allocated to the European Broadcasting Union (->BISS). What I meant was that if no CA_ID can be found on the BBC Backup transponder, you can't call it BISS

Your argument is convincing, but we have the testimony of users who have decrypt the packet and found that the key,which is Biss.One of them used AZBOX HD receiver to see BBC HD.Their testimony must be true until proved otherwise.Also @Llew actually showed us-#38 on this thread-that the key is valid.I'm not sure it is valid now{?} that it was widespread in all niche forums.
Somewhere I found a list of the PMT and SID values from the package ​​that are different that give dvbs2 player.I tried to introduce from the first list these values, but even then I did not succeed.I must say that I can not see the package neither with the DM500HD nor dvbs2 player card!
Allow me to show the two lists of SID and PMT, one taken from the net and one I completed it myself from the player:

BBC Package Biss Key Intelsat 907 (27.5°W)
BBC Package - Full (27.5°W)[BISS]
11495V 44100 9/10 DVB-S2 MPEG-4
BBC One England:SID:1044 VPID:0065 PMT:0064 PCR:0065
BBC One Scotland:SID:107C VPID:1005 PMT:1004 PCR:1005
BBC One Northern Ireland:SID:107D VPID:13ED PMT:13EC PCR:13ED
BBC One Wales:SID:107E VPID:0C1D PMT:0C1C PCR:0C1D
BBC Two England:SID:10BF VPID:00C9 PMT:00C8 PCR:00C9
BBC Three:SID:10C0 VPID:012D PMT:012C PCR:012D
BBC News:SID:1100 VPID:01F5 PMT:01F4 PCR:01F5
BBC Four:SID:11C0 VPID:0191 PMT:0190 PCR:0191
CBBC:SID:1200 VPID:012D PMT:02BC PCR:012D
CBeebies:SID:1240 VPID:0191 PMT:0320 PCR:0191
BBC Parliament:SID:1280 VPID:0259 PMT:0258 PCR:0259
301:SID:1C00 VPID:0385 PMT:0384 PCR:0385
BBC HD:SID:4440 VPID:17D5 PMT:17D4 PCR:17D5
BBC One HD:SID:4484 VPID:19C9 PMT:19C8 PCR:19C9
ITV 1 Central West HD:SID:44C8 VPID:1839 PMT:1838 PCR:1839
Channel 4 HD:SID:4500 VPID:189D PMT:189C PCR:189D
S4C HD:SID:4580 VPID:1901 PMT:1900 PCR:1FFF
STV HD:SID:45C0 VPID:1965 PMT:1964 PCR:1FFF

With DVB-S2 card:
301:SID:7168,TID:4096,VPID:0,PMT;900
BBC One England:SID:1044,VPID:0,PMT:100
BBC OANE sCOTLAND:sid:4220,vpid:0,pmt:4100
BBC One Northern Ireland:SID:4221,VPID:0,PMT:5100
BBC One Wales:SID:4222,VPID:0,PMT:3100
BBC Two England:SID:4287,VPID:0,PMT:200
BBC Three:SID:4288,VPID:0,PMT:300
BBC News:SID:0,VPID:0,PMT:500
BBC Four:SID:4544,VPID:0,PMT:400
CBBC:SID:4608,VPID:0,PMT:700
CBeebies:SID:4672,VPID:0,PMT:800
BBC Parliament:SID:4736,VPID:0,PMT:600
BBC HD:SID:17472,VPID:0,PMT:6100
BBC One HD:SID:17540,VPID:0,PMT:6600
ITV 1 Central West HD:SID:17608,VPID:0,PMT:6200
Channel 4 HD:SID:17664,VPID:0,PMT:6300
S4C HD:SID:17792,VPID:0,PMT:6400
STV HD:SID:17856,VPID:O,PMT:6500

In the first list we have each parameter value,even Video-pid,instead my player does not offer anything!Maybe one of you can see more than me and says if the packet is encrypted in BISS or other system?
In this context it is best to specify all informations from the list of satellites{Lyngsat,KoS,FlySat,etc} are provided by users,especially feedhunters and not by TV producers.Therefore errors can occur in these lists, including the type of coding,as @BlindFaith say now.But whether he is right or not, yet I can not say, but I think @humaxboy1-at #77- is right regarding the Dreambox,or at least seems more convincing.Like @Huevos, I want someone to tell us if BBC pack is working on his STB.
At least we know now if the key is valid regardless of the coding systems of such package.

 

[BlindFaith]

Your argument is convincing, but we have the testimony of users who have decrypt the packet and found that the key,which is Biss.

Please read the basic stuff..
BISS is constant CW scrambling. CCW with ca_id 0x2600 is called BISS ;)

If your receiver doesn't support this proprietary method with scrambled PMTs, you can't do anything. It's not just a question of the firmware but the emu is equally important!

 

[Llew]

Please read the basic stuff..
BISS is constant CW scrambling. CCW with ca_id 0x2600 is called BISS ;)

If your receiver doesn't support this proprietary method with scrambled PMTs, you can't do anything. It's not just a question of the firmware but the emu is equally important!

Yes, EMU is all. Obviously, if you don't have one (softcam in your receiver or plugin for your PC software), forget trying to decrypt.

 

[Huevos]

We're going off at a tangent here. There are three stages.

1. Can the receiver lock the transponder?
2. Can the receiver read the channels from the transponder?
3. Can the softcam decrypt the channels?

In my case I fail at step 2 (channel not found in PAT message), although I had no trouble when the channels were temporarily FTA. When I tried LAMEDB data from Satesco I failed at step 1. So in further posts everyone needs to say at what step they are failing so we can narrow down what is going wrong in each case.

 

[william-1]

OK with step 1& 2 with my receivers,
Fail on step 3.

 

[BlindFaith]

There are three stages.

1. Can the receiver lock the transponder?
2. Can the receiver read the channels from the transponder?
3. Can the softcam decrypt the channels?

You still miss the point. 1. is obvious and banal but 2. is stated wrongly.

There is no receiver that can read the channels. To read a channel the receiver has to read all necessary tables. But the most relevant table is scrambled! The receiver only knows the program numbers (SIT) from the PAT and the corresponding names from the SDT. Before starting thinking about descrambling you have to add and edit everything manually.


Most receivers will refuse to read anything because they fail to read the PMTs. If the channels appear they will be empty like this:


TSReader-type receivers: create new channels manually with the corresponding ES_PIDs


DVBViewer-type receivers: edit the channels (add PIDs) after performing a channel search

 

[Huevos]

Ok, these settings worked when the channels were FTA so why don't they work now? The channels is already saved so I am not looking for a new channel, just trying to play one that was already there.

0cfdace7:1000:0001
s 11495000:44100000:1:9:-275:2:0:1:1:1:2
/

1100:0cfdace7:1000:0001:1:0
BBC NEWS
p:BBC,c:0001f5,c:0101f6,c:0301f5