Using Linux Receivers To Create Signal Graphs

RimaNTSS · Jan 25, 2014

Not ATM, but when I had than dish started to go from most-East sat towards most-West. However, when distance between sats was big than script could not lock one or two frequencies. I spoke to script-writer about running script on motorized systems, he said that he did not design it for motorised.

Captain Jack · Jan 26, 2014

You can always pause the script between satellites. Use sleep x command where x is number of seconds.

Robinson74 · Jan 27, 2014

I somehow don't understand why issuing the following command:
/usr/bin/zap_to_every_transponder.sh 130
caused my rotor to move to 4.8E. It should check the signal at 13E.
There must be something wrong with the script.
How to scan only 13E or 19.2E or 28.2E?

RimaNTSS · Jan 27, 2014

As I've said before, script was not designed for motorized systems. If you wish to scan only 13*E, script sends motor to 4,8*E and afet, anyway goes to 13*E and scans all services there. Is that true? But I will ask script-designer maybe he can adopt it little bit.

Tururu · Jan 27, 2014

Robinson74 said:
I somehow don't understand why issuing the following command:
/usr/bin/zap_to_every_transponder.sh 130
caused my rotor to move to 4.8E. It should check the signal at 13E.
There must be something wrong with the script.
How to scan only 13E or 19.2E or 28.2E?

Simple, the tuner test (fault/ok) is performed on a satellite channel 4'8 ° East, have the hexadecimal to decimal conversion for the reference channel.
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Sencillo, el test del sintonizador (fallo/ok) lo realiza en un canal del satelite 4'8ºEste, lo tienes comentado en mi post, tienes la conversion de hexadecimal a decimal de la referencia del canal.

Tururu said:
In tests this afternoon/En las pruebas de esta tarde con
zap_to_every_transponder.sh

When starting the program, does a test tuner deco sending the reference channel
1:0:1:1897:.D:55:300000:0:0:0: (7:.D with a point to not skip emoticon7).

Hexa------ Decimal (if I cluelessness).
1_0_ 1 --- TV
1897 ------ 6295 Service ID
D --------- 13 transponder ID
55--------- 85 Network ID
30--------- 48 ... 4'8 Position the satellite orbital

Change the reference channel BBC 1 HD Scot (11022 V 23000)
1:0:19:22C5:80D2:11A0000:0:0:0:

As not operating the channel searching, fails, but continues the program.
See all satellites / tp we have on file satellites.xml / lamedb
According to what it is eternal.
In my case a 61Oeste 57E (42 satellites).
Thinking it may be a problem, build a channel list only 2 satellites (25'5E and 28'2E) in the file and only satellites.xml tp 25'5Este's assets (and tuned), the program is limited to these two satellites, but the result is the same fellow, shows nothing.

Do something wrong, any idea.?
Care to edit the scrip (notepad++ or similar)

PS: Good fishing.

In my case when power antenna does not work, if I have time, configurare one deco with a pair of antennas and fixed with DiSEqC 4'8°East and 19°East to see if it works well.
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En mi caso al ser antena motorizada, no funciona, si tengo tiempo, configurare un deco con un par de antenas como fijas con DiSEqC 4´8ºEste y 19ºEste para ver si funciona asi.

Thanks for the info/Gracias por la informacion RimaNTSS.

Huevos · Jan 28, 2014

cazhh said:
When tuned to a channel, press menu, select information and then service. The service reference should be the last line.

I wrote something to get this automatically. Does a scan of lamedb. You just need one service ref per transponder. I'm waiting 2 seconds on each transponder to give the tuner a chance to stabilize before reading the SNR. so it's taking almost 3 minutes to scan the 77 transponders at 28E.

Maybe I'll run it 24 hours and store the data in MySQL, and come up with different ways of graphing the data.

cazhh · Jan 28, 2014

Huevos said:
I wrote something to get this automatically. Does a scan of lamedb. You just need one service ref per transponder. I'm waiting 2 seconds on each transponder to give the tuner a chance to stabilize before reading the SNR. so it's taking almost 3 minutes to scan the 77 transponders at 28E.

Maybe I'll run it 24 hours and store the data in MySQL, and come up with different ways of graphing the data.

That is for a different purpose. i'm interested in the change over time and want to keep the interval as short as possible. To measure all transponders is in this regard not that interesting cause their behaviour is similar enough. The measurement is once per minute and will do 4 transponders per intervall. I wait 2 seconds as well.
I didn't find any way to easily get the serviceID/transponder via the webapi. Unfortunately some of the channelnames are duplicate and on different satellites alltogether.

Huevos · Jan 28, 2014

cazhh said:
I didn't find any way to easily get the serviceID/transponder via the webapi. Unfortunately some of the channelnames are duplicate and on different satellites alltogether.

Easy way to get is do a network scan of 28E and then grab userbouquet.LastScanned.tv from /etc/enigma2. From that just grab one service ref for each TSID. That's how I got them anyway. Here's a list my script harvested:

Code:

  10714 => '1:0:1:2400:7F9:2:11A0000:0:0:0:',
  10729 => '1:0:1:206C:7FA:2:11A0000:0:0:0:',
  10744 => '1:0:1:2581:7FB:2:11A0000:0:0:0:',
  10759 => '1:0:1:2819:7FC:2:11A0000:0:0:0:',
  10773 => '1:0:1:189D:7FD:2:11A0000:0:0:0:',
  10788 => '1:0:1:283D:7FE:2:11A0000:0:0:0:',
  10803 => '1:0:1:1907:7FF:2:11A0000:0:0:0:',
  10818 => '1:0:1:286F:800:2:11A0000:0:0:0:',
  10832 => '1:0:1:271F:801:2:11A0000:0:0:0:',
  10847 => '1:0:19:1B1C:802:2:11A0000:0:0:0:',
  10862 => '1:0:1:2329:803:2:11A0000:0:0:0:',
  10877 => '1:0:1:1225:804:2:11A0000:0:0:0:',
  10891 => '1:0:1:2788:805:2:11A0000:0:0:0:',
  10906 => '1:0:1:280F:806:2:11A0000:0:0:0:',
  10921 => '1:0:0:1207:807:2:11A0000:0:0:0:',
  10936 => '1:0:19:F0B:808:2:11A0000:0:0:0:',
  10964 => '1:0:1:1E14:809:2:11A0000:0:0:0:',
  10994 => '1:0:1:2F45:7F4:2:11A0000:0:0:0:',
  11023 => '1:0:19:22C5:80D:2:11A0000:0:0:0:',
  11053 => '1:0:1:5109:80F:2:11A0000:0:0:0:',
  11068 => '1:0:19:5140:810:2:11A0000:0:0:0:',
  11097 => '1:0:19:5208:812:2:11A0000:0:0:0:',
  11127 => '1:0:1:5302:814:2:11A0000:0:0:0:',
  11222 => '1:0:1:CB21:907:2:11A0000:0:0:0:',
  11224 => '1:0:1:CF7E:908:2:11A0000:0:0:0:',
  11260 => '1:0:1:CB96:8FE:2:11A0000:0:0:0:',
  11261 => '1:0:1:CB84:8FD:2:11A0000:0:0:0:',
  11307 => '1:0:1:CC01:8FF:2:11A0000:0:0:0:',
  11343 => '1:0:1:D7A1:900:2:11A0000:0:0:0:',
  11345 => '1:0:1:D007:909:2:11A0000:0:0:0:',
  11390 => '1:0:1:D101:90C:2:11A0000:0:0:0:',
  11426 => '1:0:1:CD14:902:2:11A0000:0:0:0:',
  11720 => '1:0:19:F49:7D1:2:11A0000:0:0:0:',
  11759 => '1:0:19:f5c:7d3:2:11a0000:0:0:0:',
  11778 => '1:0:82:1038:7D4:2:11A0000:0:0:0:',
  11798 => '1:0:19:F13:7D5:2:11A0000:0:0:0:',
  11817 => '1:0:1:1965:7D6:2:11A0000:0:0:0:',
  11837 => '1:0:1:1135:7d7:2:11a0000:0:0:0:',
  11856 => '1:0:19:eef:7d8:2:11a0000:0:0:0:',
  11876 => '1:0:1:1839:7D9:2:11A0000:0:0:0:',
  11895 => '1:0:1:1B59:7DA:2:11A0000:0:0:0:',
  11915 => '1:0:1:151B:7DB:2:11A0000:0:0:0:',
  11934 => '1:0:0:114A:7DC:2:11A0000:0:0:0:',
  11993 => '1:0:1:1DB0:7DF:2:11A0000:0:0:0:',
  12012 => '1:0:19:F16:7E0:2:11A0000:0:0:0:',
  12032 => '1:0:1:1C3E:7E1:2:11A0000:0:0:0:',
  12051 => '1:0:1:1BBC:7E2:2:11A0000:0:0:0:',
  12071 => '1:0:1:155F:7E3:2:11A2F26:0:0:0:',
  12090 => '1:0:19:F10:7E4:2:11A0000:0:0:0:',
  12110 => '1:0:1:51A:7E5:2:11A0000:0:0:0:',
  12149 => '1:0:1:1202:7E7:2:11A0000:0:0:0:',
  12168 => '1:0:19:F3C:7E8:2:11A0000:0:0:0:',
  12188 => '1:0:0:F36:7E9:2:11A0000:0:0:0:',
  12207 => '1:0:1:1210:7EA:2:11A0000:0:0:0:',
  12227 => '1:0:19:F1B:7EB:2:11A0000:0:0:0:',
  12246 => '1:0:19:F2D:7EC:2:11A0000:0:0:0:',
  12266 => '1:0:0:1215:7ED:2:11A0000:0:0:0:',
  12285 => '1:0:1:2331:7EE:2:11A0000:0:0:0:',
  12305 => '1:0:0:1212:7EF:2:11A0000:0:0:0:',
  12324 => '1:0:0:F3B:7F0:2:11A0000:0:0:0:',
  12344 => '1:0:19:F0D:7F1:2:11A0000:0:0:0:',
  12363 => '1:0:19:F4A:7F2:2:11A0000:0:0:0:',
  12383 => '1:0:0:F3A:7F3:2:11A0000:0:0:0:',
  12461 => '1:0:0:F39:7F7:2:11A0000:0:0:0:',
  12480 => '1:0:1:2F03:7F8:2:11A0000:0:0:0:',
  12515 => '1:0:1:C495:819:2:11A0000:0:0:0:',
  12520 => '1:0:1:253B:81A:2:11A0000:0:0:0:',
  12545 => '1:0:1:C517:81B:2:11A0000:0:0:0:',
  12552 => '1:0:1:D356:81C:2:11A0000:0:0:0:',
  12574 => '1:0:19:F01:81D:2:11A0000:0:0:0:',
  12580 => '1:0:1:D804:81E:2:11A0000:0:0:0:',
  12604 => '1:0:1:C789:81F:2:11A0000:0:0:0:',
  12611 => '1:0:1:C69F:820:2:11A0000:0:0:0:',
  12633 => '1:0:1:C7A3:821:2:11A0000:0:0:0:',
  12640 => '1:0:0:D7D0:822:2:11A0000:0:0:0:',
  12663 => '1:0:1:D3C3:823:2:11A0000:0:0:0:',
  12670 => '1:0:1:D335:824:2:11A0000:0:0:0:',

cazhh · Jan 28, 2014

yeah. but the java program is explicetely for people who don't want to touch their dreambox at all.

Huevos · Jan 28, 2014

cazhh said:
yeah. but the java program is explicetely for people who don't want to touch their dreambox at all.

No need to touch the box for them. You just need to maintain an online source that your program can update from once in a while. Anyway even if you don't update it the box will still tune the transponder even if the channel no longer exists.

And BTW fancy buying a Dreambox if you don't want to touch it.

cazhh · Jan 28, 2014

Huevos said:
No need to touch the box for them. You just need to maintain an online source that your program can update from once in a while. Anyway even if you don't update it the box will still tune the transponder even if the channel no longer exists.

And BTW fancy buying a Dreambox if you don't want to touch it.

Are IDs unique for everyone ? I wasn't sure about it therefore i wrote "verify". People still seem to be happy with their untouched dreambox. Distributions like openpli work pretty well even without linux know how.

Huevos · Jan 28, 2014

cazhh said:
Are IDs unique for everyone ?

They are unique to the channel. Here's an example:
http://192.168.1.xx/api/zap?sRef=1:0:1:189d:7fd:2:11a0000:0:0:0:
That's BBC1 London. The same link should work for everyone (as long as the IP corresponds to the box). But obviously the transponder and channel would need to already exist in lamedb (i.e. 28E has already been scanned).

Waveguide · Jan 28, 2014

I can't find userbouquet.LastScanned.tv but for instance my own list
userbouquet.stora_brittanien__tv_.tv has lines like:
#SERVICE 1:0:1:2876:800:2:11C0000:0:0:0:(which is BBC news HD for me)

With a bit of editing a line like
192.168.1.xx/web/zap?sRef=1:0:1:2876:800:2:11C0000:0:0:0:
does the work in a Dreambox 500HD with newnigma2 firmware.

... so not all boxes speak the same dialect it seems.

Huevos · Jan 28, 2014

Waveguide said:
I can't find userbouquet.LastScanned.tv but for instance my own list
userbouquet.stora_brittanien__tv_.tv has lines like:
#SERVICE 1:0:1:2876:800:2:11C0000:0:0:0:(which is BBC news HD for me)

With a bit of editing a line like
192.168.1.xx/web/zap?sRef=1:0:1:2876:800:2:11C0000:0:0:0:
does the work in a Dreambox 500HD with newnigma2 firmware.

... so not all boxes speak the same dialect it seems.

Your link works for me if I change the C to A, so for some reason the namespace is different.

/web or /api is just whether you want xml or json output from OpenWebIf. Maybe Newnigma2 is using the old closed source WebIF.

Userbouquet.LastScanned.tv is a temporary bouquet created after a scan, but disappears on a restart.

Here's what my output looks like so far using 180cm dish.

Code:

10714 MHz = 13.78 dB
10729 MHz = 13.21 dB
10744 MHz = 13.73 dB
10759 MHz = 13.32 dB
10773 MHz = 13.43 dB
10788 MHz = 14.22 dB
10803 MHz = 13.58 dB
10818 MHz = 14.45 dB
10832 MHz = 14.55 dB
10847 MHz = 13.43 dB
10862 MHz = 14.25 dB
10877 MHz = 13.69 dB
10891 MHz = 12.43 dB
10906 MHz = 13.64 dB
10921 MHz = 13.69 dB
10936 MHz = 13.29 dB
10964 MHz = 11.62 dB
10994 MHz = 12.30 dB
11023 MHz = 12.06 dB
11053 MHz = 11.84 dB
11068 MHz = 12.17 dB
11097 MHz = 12.24 dB
11127 MHz = 12.69 dB
11222 MHz = 9.45 dB
11224 MHz = 11.02 dB
11260 MHz = 10.22 dB
11261 MHz = 10.50 dB
11307 MHz = 11.09 dB
11343 MHz = 9.34 dB
11345 MHz = 10.39 dB
11390 MHz = 9.51 dB
11426 MHz = 8.97 dB
11720 MHz = 13.36 dB
11759 MHz = 6.90 dB
11778 MHz = 7.39 dB
11798 MHz = 13.98 dB
11817 MHz = 14.66 dB
11837 MHz = 0.00 dB
11856 MHz = 6.64 dB
11876 MHz = 14.92 dB
11895 MHz = 14.31 dB
11915 MHz = 8.38 dB
11934 MHz = 7.21 dB
11993 MHz = 8.64 dB
12012 MHz = 7.53 dB
12032 MHz = 14.94 dB
12051 MHz = 14.05 dB
12071 MHz = 13.96 dB
12090 MHz = 14.06 dB
12110 MHz = 14.71 dB
12149 MHz = 14.65 dB
12168 MHz = 14.23 dB
12188 MHz = 14.39 dB
12207 MHz = 13.80 dB
12227 MHz = 13.96 dB
12246 MHz = 13.56 dB
12266 MHz = 14.34 dB
12285 MHz = 14.66 dB
12305 MHz = 13.30 dB
12324 MHz = 14.38 dB
12344 MHz = 14.62 dB
12363 MHz = 13.86 dB
12383 MHz = 8.64 dB
12461 MHz = 9.66 dB
12480 MHz = 9.16 dB
12515 MHz = 14.94 dB
12520 MHz = 14.78 dB
12545 MHz = 14.94 dB
12552 MHz = 14.91 dB
12574 MHz = 12.27 dB
12580 MHz = 12.00 dB
12604 MHz = 14.76 dB
12611 MHz = 14.27 dB
12633 MHz = 14.68 dB
12640 MHz = 14.31 dB
12663 MHz = 14.01 dB
12670 MHz = 13.73 dB

Huevos · Jan 28, 2014

cazhh said:
The measurement is once per minute and will do 4 transponders per intervall.

Is your signal level really changing so fast that you have to scan once a minute? I would have thought once every 10 minutes would give a pretty accurate idea of daily trends.

Tururu · Jan 29, 2014

The reference channel is the same for everyone.? if.
If the list of satellites is equal and we have them in the same position.

An example to this reference: 1:0:1:1897:.D:55:300000:0:0:0:
The satellite currently 4'8 ° This does not have to be only 4'9 ° East satellite, this satellite reference changes.
1:0:1:1897:.D:55:310000:0:0:0: (7:.D with a point to not skip emoticon7

).

------ Hexa Decimal (if I cluelessness).
1_0_ 1 --- TV
1897 ------ 6295 Service ID
D --------- 13 transponder ID
55--------- 85 Network ID
30--------- 48 ... 4'8 Position the satellite orbital
31--------- 49 ... 4'9 Position the satellite orbital

Taking this into account, no problem, so some references may not channel it in the file lamedb.
Using DreamBoxEdit program, you can easily copy the reference channel, changing the underscores (_) by ( : )
--------------------------
La referencia de canal es la misma para todos.? si.
Si el listado de satelites es igual y los tenemos en la misma posicion.

Un ejemplo con esta referencia: 1:0:1:1897:.D:55:300000:0:0:0:
El satelite 4'8ºEste actualmente no lo tengo al tener solo el satelite 4'9ºEste, en este satelite la referencia cambia.
1:0:1:1897:.D:55:310000:0:0:0:

Hexa------ Decimal (if I cluelessness).
1_0_ 1 --- TV
1897 ------ 6295 Service ID
D --------- 13 transponder ID
55--------- 85 Network ID
30--------- 48 ... 4'8 Position the satellite orbital
31--------- 49 ... 4'9 Position the satellite orbital

Si tenemos esto en cuenta, no hay problema, por eso algunas referencias de canal puede que no las tengamos en el fichero lamedb.
Usando el programa DreamBoxedit, se puede copiar facilmente la referencia de canal, cambiando los guiones (_) por ( : )

Google translator is that he has, sorry .
Google traductor es lo que tiene, lo siento.

Tururu · Jan 29, 2014

Waveguide said:
I can't find userbouquet.LastScanned.tv but for instance my own list
userbouquet.stora_brittanien__tv_.tv has lines like:
#SERVICE 1:0:1:2876:800:2:11C0000:0:0:0:(which is BBC news HD for me)

With a bit of editing a line like
192.168.1.xx/web/zap?sRef=1:0:1:2876:800:2:11C0000:0:0:0:
does the work in a Dreambox 500HD with newnigma2 firmware.

... so not all boxes speak the same dialect it seems.

Huevos said:
Your link works for me if I change the C to A, so for some reason the namespace is different........

1:0:1:2876:800:2 :11C0000:0:0:0:BBC news HD ==> bad
1:0:1:2876:800:2 :11A0000:0:0:0:BBC news HD ==> good

In a deco wrong created the satellite, so the reference channel is different.
En un deco esta mal creado el satelite, por eso la referencia de canal es distinta.

HEX => DEC
11C ==> 284 ==> 28'4ºEast ==> bad
11A ==> 282 ==> 28'2ºEast ==> good

Google translator is that he has, sorry .
Google traductor es lo que tiene, lo siento.

PD: Es lo malo de vivir en Alicante (cerca), continuare de lector, es divertido.

Huevos · Jan 29, 2014

Tururu, what image are you using?

Tururu · Jan 29, 2014

DB800S-HD.- Dream Elite V.133dv3 phoenix edition
DB800S-HD.- Newnigma-3.2
DB800se.- Newnigma-3.2
Vu+Duo².- BlackHole 2.0.6, etc.

Huevos · Jan 29, 2014

And the namespace is the same on all of them?

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